Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development

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  1. editor

    editor hiraethified

    They got The Collective onboard who appear to be very successful in raking in millions. But not at Pop Brixton, curiously enough.
  2. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    No, but apparently neither do Lambeth or pop.

    Unless it means, “look at our edible bus stop, meanwhile we siphon off a load of cash in management charges”

  3. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Exactly how would the Edible Bus Stop have 'siphoned' off money? :confused: :confused: :confused:
  4. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Rent it out on commercial basis for a few years. Then invest that money in local area.
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  5. editor

    editor hiraethified

    They could have given the land over to local market traders - like the ones who had been kicked out of the arches. Even though they're not the on-trend, entrepreneurial kind that Lambeth loves - or have the backing of Mayfair property developers - it would have taken real skill for them to post immense losses over a long, rent free period.
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  6. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    What should have happened is that when Pop lease was running out the Council should have gone out and consulted locals on giving a new lease. What they like / dislike about Pop. What should be written into any new agreement between Pop and Council.

    What actually happened was Council turning up to a Brixton Neighborhood forum to tell local community Council had given Pop a new lease. Didn't go down well
  7. alex_

    alex_ Well-Known Member

    It wouldn’t have - apols sarcasm came across badly.

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  8. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Same old scene with Lambeth Council: give business a reach-around, but kick the local communities up the arse.
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  9. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Excellent analysis of the dubious housing strategy of Pop's stinking rich co-owners, The Collective.

    The Collective is Not a New Way of Living – It’s an Old One, Commodified - Failed Architecture
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  10. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

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  11. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Interesting article.

    On the post war " welfare state" architecture:

    Very much the ethos behind the design of the Brixton Rec. A reason why it got listed. It really should not take being listed to get the social agenda in the quote above (partially) protected.

    Ive been at meetings about the Rec overlooking Pop. Thinking I don't want the Rec to end up like Pop.
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  12. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Another thing. On sharing facilities as a good thing. Like it's new great idea.

    I did this in 70s Plymouth. Most flats didn't have bathrooms. So we used the wash house at end the road. Which was Council run. And from what I remember good and clean.

    I've mixed feelings on "communal facilities". In Plymouth the new Council housing with facilities in each flat was seen at time as step forward.

    Chatting to my brother today. Like he said there were three flats in our house, in 70s in Plymouth, and we shared one toliet. Like he said that wasn't unusual then.

    I got a new washing machine before Christmas. Cheaper and more convenient than Loughborough junction launderette. But I miss the chats I had in Launderette. And being in touch with the cross section of people who live in LJ.

    So yes having all "mod cons" is improvement. But there is loss of collective life.

    I do think however it's not something that should be returned to.

    The Collective "communal" living isn't really progressive. People are paying a lot for a glorified bedsit.
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  13. equationgirl

    equationgirl Respect my existence or expect my resistance

    Ii had a look at the Collective's website to see what they offered - two options, either a studio or an ensuite room, both of which have access to kitchen, living space etc.

    The studio was more expensive (£290 pw vs £245 iirc) but I couldn't actually work out what you got for that. Other than a slimline bank account.
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  14. Tricky Skills

    Tricky Skills Well-Known Member

    They may be a loss-making project, propped up by wealthy backers and a supine Council, but Pop is half decent at spinning some PR crap to some very, very gullible websites.
  15. editor

    editor hiraethified

    "Now boasting a two-year extension" - wow that's some magnificent spin.
  16. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery Pretty comfortable here right under your skin

    Beer festival's just kicked off; runs until 2345 tomorrow. Free entry and free beer tasting. Winner.
  17. alcopop

    alcopop Banned Banned

    I can’t see how anyone could complain about that!
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  18. T & P

    T & P |-o-| (-o-) |-o-|

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  19. editor

    editor hiraethified

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    editor hiraethified

  21. aka

    aka Brixton Hill

    Imagine reading that if you didn’t know who League of Gentlemen are?
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  22. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Oh, please do tell us all here what this imaginary person who has never heard of the League of Gentlemen would think. I'm sure it's going to be something quite amazing.

    Any comment on the claim that a "bumper harvest" was grown at Pop Brixton "by local people for local people"? Were they handing out the immense harvest to people on the local estates perhaps?
  23. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery Pretty comfortable here right under your skin

    Free entry all dayer on Saturday hosted by local Brixton promoters No Long Ting. Reggae, dance hall, soul etc. Kicks off at midday. I've not heard of any of the DJs but looks alright for a last of summer sun weekend


  24. Tricky Skills

    Tricky Skills Well-Known Member

    You mean you normally have to pay to enter the bloody place these days?
  25. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery Pretty comfortable here right under your skin

  26. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery Pretty comfortable here right under your skin

    Brixton Design Trail: A Film Night

    Free event kicks off at 1900 tonight.

    Young filmmakers present their latest projects. Opportunity for the audience (and industry professionals) to provide feedback. Audience feedback? Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.
  27. editor

    editor hiraethified

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    editor hiraethified

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  29. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Here's another event for all the community!

  30. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    From the website:

    Programme for the state visit to the United Kingdom

    How do Pop manage to get this PR? Whoever is doing it is doing a great job.

    And I sm struggling to see how Pop helps with integration.

    Plus I find something objectionable about aristocracy coming to Brixton to see "social challenges".
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