Pop Brixton (formerly Grow Brixton) Pope's Road development

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Mar 27, 2014.

  1. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I think Beautiful Christian Books might comment:

    1 Corithians 13:13
    And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. (KJV)
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  2. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    I'm sure The Collective are overflowing with charitable thoughts and deeds.
  3. Lucy Fur

    Lucy Fur Well-Known Member

    "their cuntishness runneth over" Ev 1 Ch23
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  4. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    pop is pushing the boundaries of taste with this Halloween themed event focussing on dead artistes


  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Lots of tragically young deaths to celebrate. Such fun!
  6. cuppa tee

    cuppa tee Well-Known Member

    i suppose some bright spark thought this sub rag week bollocks was edgy and original and I am all in favour of a bit of iconoclasm but this wacky concept is about as bleak as it gets....
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  7. Maharani

    Maharani Just like Heaven

    Sorry if this is a repeat but thought I'd post it to stir things up a bit! Not that I need to do that!

    ETA: she uses the 'v' word...
  8. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    They've changed their website and the introduction is now full-on business blurb. They're still pedalling their dubious "local" line, mind.

  9. Angellic

    Angellic Well-Known Member

    From Jay Rayner in the Observer yesterday.

    Pop Brixton is an increasingly familiar style of retail and eating park formed out of shipping containers, with added values around community engagement
    and training. The food offering is varied and generally reliable. Highlights include Koi Ramen, Baba G’s Bhangra Burger, Zoe’s Ghana Kitchen and Maria Sabina’s tacos. There’s communal seating and a pleasingly steamy vibe (popbrixton.org).
  10. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    All seems a far cry from the winning bid's aim of "bringing together the local residents of Brixton through performance, making and growing" with a "self-sufficient community, organised and run by designers, builders and gardeners and managed through the local residents and small businesses."
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  11. Mr Retro

    Mr Retro Beware hedgehogs

    I can vouch for the grub at Baba G's and Zoe's. :thumbs:
  12. SpamMisery

    SpamMisery I bet you think this tagline's about you?

    Yeah Baba G's is lovely
  13. Rushy

    Rushy AKA some / certain posters

    I like the sound of this "steamy vibe". I wonder what night he visited :eek:.
  14. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    You must pop round for a cup of tea at some point.
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  15. ddraig

    ddraig dros ben llestri

  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Oh and it's not just special occasions where you can spend, spend, spend at Pop - why every Thursday you can shell out a hefty £42.40 for a supper club. Another real benchmark for community affordability there. I'm sure they'll be queuing up from the estates!
  17. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    Are they required to publish an annual report?
  18. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    BTW what is Pop Farm - it is related to Pop Brixton in that James Leay is a "person of significant control" for both.

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  19. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    Those really are 'abbreviated'!

    I'm not an accountant. How much did this guy make then?
  20. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I'm not an accountant either - though I have done book-keeping for years.
    It seems from those account that for the period 18th November 2014 to 31st January 2016 there was a declared deficit (loss) of £266,709.00

    You might think it odd that the accounts are for a period of 14 months approximately - and of course being a "start-up" there is no comparative period.

    Additionally, being abbreviated accounts, there is no indication of staff salaries or wages or indeed any indication of magnitude of income and expenditure.

    I'm very old school in these things. I find it bizarre and reprehensible that companies with assets running into millions of pounds can file abbreviated accounts. This has been going on since the days of Gordon Brown's deregulation of companies - and in my view is taking the piss.
  21. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    So the bottom line, even if you were to see the non abbreviated accounts, is that the business lost a quarter of a million? That doesn't really make sense. Is he required to publish the full accounts?
  22. Monkeygrinder's Organ

    Monkeygrinder's Organ Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager

    I think the striking thing about what you can see in the accounts there isn't so much the loss (which AFAIK isn't unusual for a new company), it's that it looks to all be set up on a long term basis. They've got a lot of fixed assets which they're depreciating over 4 years, and a huge amount of long term debt.

    Now how long is it before they're supposedly taking this place down?:hmm:
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  23. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    No he isn't required to publish full accounts, though under EU regulations he might be required to provide slightly ore information next time.

    The quickest way to find out would (theoretically) be to ask the shareholders:
    Pop sh.JPG
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  24. Reiabuzz

    Reiabuzz Banned Banned

    Excuse my ignorance, but what's he getting out of it if he's lost £266,000 - is he anticipating a massive increase in profits this year - I thought this thing was temporary?

    He's the majority shareholder right?
  25. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I can't speak to the accounts - except that Monkeygrinder's Organ gives a plausible explanation for the capital situation.

    I did however chance upon a second company, MAKE SHIFT COMMUNITY LTD, which has changed its name four times, having formerly been:
    POP COMMUNITY LIMITED 13 Jan 2016 - 11 May 2016
    PECKHAM LEVELS LIMITED 15 Dec 2015 - 13 Jan 2016
    POP COMMUNITY LIMITED 29 Jul 2015 - 15 Dec 2015

    This looks like it is the vehicle into which the rents are paid - but has of course not published any accounts at all.

    Lambeth Council and Pop Brixton look like a lesser spotted ENRON, if anyone remembers them.
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  26. CH1

    CH1 "Red Guard"(NLYL)

    I'm sure folks will be glad to know that Carl Turner architects have moved onto higher things, namely demolishing the Peckham Arch, and replacing it with two "mixed use" buildings on a co-op design principle.

    Fans will be delighted to know that there is a photo of Pop Brixton on page 7 of the design and access statement - presumably by way of a testimony to the excellence of the architect's work.

    Shame that a 1990s space age plaza in Peckham is to be despoiled by one of Lambeth Council's favourite architects. But not surprising.
    What was that about the privatisation of public space?

    Anybody wanting to protest might consider a trip to the Southwark Town Hall 160 Tooley Street on 8th November (meeting starts 5.30 pm)

    I'm fascinated by how Mr Turner seems to be the go-to architect when councils want to get rid of public space and replace it with business units of a non-democratically accountable nature. But not nature as in eco-friendly.

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  27. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Mr Karl Turner hasn't really got the best of reputations amongst some people I've been talking to recently. Still, he did very nicely indeed out of Pop.
  28. teuchter

    teuchter je suis teuchter

    As I understand it, Carl Turner architects drew up two proposals, one retaining the arch and one removing it. It was Southwark who decided to go with the removal option. Sometimes it seems that people don't realise architects work to a brief - it's those who are paying them who have the final say on these kinds of decisions. Pop Brixton is a special case where the architects also have a business interest in the operation of the site. The same doesn't apply to the Peckham proposals.

    If a council decides to go ahead with something, whether or not I agree with their decision I'd rather it was executed by good designers. Carl Turner seem to do good stuff, architecturally. The alternative is to go with some architects willing to do cheap & cheerful driven entirely by cost efficiency and then you end up with something like the Premier Inn extension in Brixton.

    It's hardly surprising that in the section of the Design & Access statement where the architects give examples of previous work, they show an example of previous work. I think box parks are kind of cliched and stupid, but the boxpark they've done at Pop Brixton is better than average, in my opinion.
  29. Mr Retro

    Mr Retro Beware hedgehogs

  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

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