Politipiggle (or the state of perception)

[Treacle Toes]

for the purposes of this piece?

What piece?

 

[samceeh]

They're just not very good, I'm afraid. Good political cartoons need evocative drawing and real political insight. You've done neither.

Everyone's a critic

 

[brogdale]

Everyone's a critic

So what's your politics, then?

 

[samceeh]

What piece?

It is a collection I made.
If you like, I can send you the full PDF? Pm me your email address and I'll send it over later if you are interested.

 

[samceeh]

So what's your politics, then?

I'm politically apathetic, mostly. I believe a lot of my generation is- or they are poorly informed enough for it to amount to the same thing.

Im politically apathetic, but I keep myself informed. I was surprised when making this at how many of my otherwise very intelligent peers didn't know of (or didn't care to know) a lot of the major players or what they care about. Ignorance as a choice, almost. They get their news from buzzfeed and Facebook.

 

[Orang Utan]

apathetic

 

[brogdale]

I'm politically apathetic, mostly. I believe a lot of my generation is- or they are poorly informed enough for it to amount to the same thing.

Im politically apathetic, but I keep myself informed. I was surprised when making this at how many of my otherwise very intelligent peers didn't know of (or didn't care to know) a lot of the major players or what they care about. Ignorance as a choice, almost. They get their news from buzzfeed and Facebook.

'kinnel

Mumsnet------>

 

[samceeh]

'kinnel

Mumsnet------>

Is there no place for apathy in the pantheon of political positions? I'd argue that the cynicism that infects popular discourse is simply apathy's eloquent cousin

 

[Santino]

Is there no place for apathy in the pantheon of political positions? I'd argue that the cynicism that infects popular discourse is simply Apathy's eloquent cousin

'My benefits have been cut and I've been assessed as fit to work even though I'm terminally ill.'

'Sorry, I'm apathetic.'

 

[Santino]

Is there no place for apathy in the pantheon of political positions? I'd argue that the cynicism that infects popular discourse is simply Apathy's eloquent cousin

'We're going to start charging for basic health services because taxes meant to pay for the NHS are being funelled into private hands.'

'Not interested, I'm apathetic.'

 

[brogdale]

I'd argue that the cynicism that infects popular discourse is simply Apathy's eloquent cousin

Would you? I don't think many would concur that indifference and cynicism are synonymous tbh.

If you don't care about politics this is a strange place to rock up.

 

[Santino]

'I was abused as a child by a cabal of politicians who used their influence to cover up their crimes.'

'Couldn't give a shit mate, I'm apathetic.'

 

[Orang Utan]

I think you have mistaken 'witless' for 'apathetic'.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Do you want to stop being apathetic or would you like us to somehow endorse your apathy as a credible political position?

Louis MacNeice

 

[samceeh]

Ah, but that's my point! (Cooking with charcoal now!)
Say the voting turnout is at 36% next month. How many of those voters are actually engaged enough to even know who most ministers are? How many are even aware of who their MP is before election day? I think the "witless" jibe is more a lament on the state of political awareness amongst the general population than a personal dig. Or at least that's how I'll take it

And yes, this isn't a board I would frequent (especially considering the poisonous messages that are now in my inbox), but since you are interested in politics, I thought you might be interested in a politically-themed work. And some of you must be, because some of you have requested copies of the pdf.

As for the 'im apathetic' comments- you might feel that they are ridiculous, but I guarantee most aren't aware yet of child abuse allegations aimed at past politicians. Or the fact that the worst off in this country are being cut loose at the bottom. Or who is even responsible.

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm taking issue with you saying you're apathetic. How can a political cartoonist be apathetic?

 

[DotCommunist]

you're basically saying people are politicaly dolts then

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Oh good job.

PMs of support by page 2.

 

[samceeh]

you're basically saying people are politicaly dolts then

not at all. What I'm aiming at is that most people treat it as background noise. They're simply not interested enough to do anything towards changing anything.

 

[Santino]

If only they would do some line drawings of Nick Clegg.

 

[samceeh]

Oh good job.

PMs of support by page 2.

ha ha, appreciated. But that wasn't what I was angling for. I just meant that this forum may dislike what I'm saying, but it's irrelevant. Even with the heightened interest from having 'minor' party visibility and talk of coalitions, voter turnout will still be low. To paraphrase TP, people simply want today to be followed by tomorrow.

 

[samceeh]

If only they would do some line drawings of Nick Clegg.

im not interested in changing anything. I just wanted people to take a think about how they perceive these characters/

 

[butchersapron]

ha ha, appreciated. But that wasn't what I was angling for. I just meant that this forum may dislike what I'm saying, but it's irrelevant. Even with the heightened interest from having 'minor' party visibility and talk of coalitions, voter turnout will still be low. To paraphrase TP, people simply want today to be followed by tomorrow.

TP?

 

[Santino]

im not interested in changing anything.

I was bored of the way we talk about politics. I hope this goes a little way to changing the conversation.

 

[brogdale]

im not interested in changing anything

Then you most definitely are not politically apathetic.

 

[Orang Utan]

TP?

Tony Parsons?
Talcott Parsons?
Terrence Parker?
Tribal Princess?

 

[samceeh]

TP?

terry pratchett

 

[Santino]

Terry Pratchett

 

[samceeh]

Then you most definitely are not politically apathetic.

you misunderstand me. It's not that I love things the way they are. It's that I don't believe politics (in the media mainstream) allows for meaningful change. It's a kind of panto.

I'm not interested in overthrow, or revolution. I'm simply interested in the way people think.

edit: added some words

 

[Santino]

'as a construct'