Political Correctness
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Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Here me out people!!! Apparently Gordon Clown has banned Britain because it offends the Irish!? Thi ssounds crazy but it is sadly probably true!
Actually fridgemagnet it wasn't my version at all, and all you've done is supply the bbc's version. I distinctly recall the version i read saying they didn't want to upset the parents using the word 'obese'.
Thesis? You what? This thread has no thesis in it, just look at the thread title. It's a debating forum, not a bloody degree assignment.
You frequently make the mistake thinking that i'm here to convince others. Maybe that's your basis for contributing to urban, but it's not mine.
I am actually crying with laughter now
Well in that case i think it fair to declare you're leading a rather sad life at the minute then.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Ah, so the poorly constructed arguments are a deliberate strategy in your game plan then?
Publish this if you dare! A wise man once said that Gordon Clown, Nu Liar Bore and the PC loon brigade have banned genocide because it offends ethnics and queers! Send them to Iraq - it's the only sensible choice?!
Would that be because the PC people have robbed you of the necessary tools of communication?
Bastards.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I read the other day that I can't even say or do things without there being consequences of varying degrees for saying or doing those things. Apparently judgement can be now be passed on judgmental statements or actions! The invisible hand of the PC Politburo is strangling my speech - AND YOURS! You couldn't make it up, you couldn't make it up.
Gmart
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Another example of this is the Michael Moore book "Stupid White Men" which is obviously racist.
No doubt a title of "Stupid Black Men" would have been unacceptable.
And this is the crux. This implication is that if one group is in power, then they can be discriminated against, but if they have suffered even a little bit, then any such discrimination is illegal and justifies the kind of ad hominem attacks I got earlier.
No doubt a title of "Stupid Black Men" would have been unacceptable.
And this is the crux. This implication is that if one group is in power, then they can be discriminated against, but if they have suffered even a little bit, then any such discrimination is illegal and justifies the kind of ad hominem attacks I got earlier.
Yes, that's right. And a routine by a black comedian- say Chris Rock- about how much he hates, say, "stupid niggaz", would be entirely unthinkable.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
The dominant power group is unfortunately taken as 'fair game' for verbal potshots but as top dog rarely if at all suffers other types of dicriminatory behaviour like you know, unequal pay increased attention from police etc etc
Gmart
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So you can only suffer from discrimination if you are not part of a certain group of people?
The dominant power group itself is being discriminated against because some of them have power. Just because I am white and male doesn't mean that I am richer than you if we meet in the pub. There are plenty of other people meeting that criteria, and they don't deserve to be shat on just for being part of that group, (something which was not their own fault).
And talking about things which were not their fault, i thought that not judging people because of the colour of their skin was where the PC world started?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
No and maybe you should do some reading on Reagan-era USA...that's where the whole "PC gone mad" bollocks started (but you seem to have missed that).
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
And why don't we have a White History Month, eh?
Gmart
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And why don't we have a White History Month, eh?
Are you saying that it is ok to have a black history month, presumably celebrating that history, meanwhile it is NOT ok to have a white history month? I mean are white kids not allowed to celebrate their history in class, while the black kids are? How fair is that?
I would suggest that we have neither and that it is up to the family to teach such things. Both histories will come up in the syllabus anyway to a certain degree, so I don't see the problem.
If someone wants to explore minor subjects outside the curriculum, then surely that would be fine, but why impose such a distinct division in society by having an entire month called black history month?
I don't see what the problem is! I am arguing for no discrimination...
nino_savatte
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You clearly haven't thought this through - have you?
Gmart
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And I'm clearly not going to get an answer from you as usual...
I have thought it through very well thankyou and have come to the conclusion that being politically aware is a good thing, but that it is often simplistic and does not count for all cases. And that sometimes it pays to think before just trotting out the same old arguments.
nino_savatte
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Er, what are you talking about? What "answer"? You haven't asked me a question, dimwit.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Okay, I wasn't expecting him to actually agree.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
Fair enough, so why did you say the above. Do you believe that it is impossible to take being PC too far?
facefuckingpalm
Gmart
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FFS, this is not rocket science. It should be pretty obvious that being PC can be taken too far, because it doesn't give us all the answers. I would suggest being politically aware as much as possible, but perfection will not be achieved.
I appreciate the argument for positive discrimination, but it will often be at the expense of those who are disadvantaged, but who don't meet the correct racial criteria.
The allocation of resources has to be managed very carefully as we only have a finite amount.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
No, it isn't rocket science. It really isn't. It's really, really easy.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
It's amazing you lot seem so keen to go on about it being easy, yet refuse to actually state it!
If it were so easy, it would have taken you less time just to state it.
The logical conclusion is that you don't understand it at all, and that you are hoping just to palm me off with vague bullshit.
OR you're just pulling my leg and you just don't know
Either way I'm bored now so if you have something interesting to say then please feel free otherwise I'll go back to the ME forum where Rach talks rubbish all the time, but at least he actually bothers to get involved...
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
You see, the thing is, anyone who doesn't understand the whole "white history month" thing is operating from one or more of the following positions:
1. hasn't thought about it;
2. is just thick.
It is _so fucking easy_. This is 2+2 stuff. Even blatant racists usually _understand_ it, they just argue that, say, actually whites did everything worth caring about anyway.
1. hasn't thought about it;
2. is just thick.
It is _so fucking easy_. This is 2+2 stuff. Even blatant racists usually _understand_ it, they just argue that, say, actually whites did everything worth caring about anyway.
Gmart
Well-Known Member
Dealt with this in #78.
And I might add that you should have the option 3 where I have thought about it but come to a different conclusion to yourself ie. I don't think we should have either black or white history month as I stated in #78.
Can I recommend therefore that you throw yourself down a steep flight of stairs, thus freeing up resources for someone a little more evolved?
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