Polish Nazis on the rise in the UK?

Discussion in 'protest, direct action and demos' started by manny-p, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    Massive agricultural sector, coal mining in Silesia, old school heavy industries. Lots of companies relocated manufacturing there because of lower labour costs, for example I have friends who work for Dell in Lodz - they relocated there from Ireland a decade ago but now my friends are concerned Dell might relocate the factory again to somewhere like Vietnam.
  2. Corax

    Corax Luke 5:16

    George Cross, I am in you.
  3. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    not compared to polish humour. For example , at the end of this fight the polish guy tells his girlfreind...dont worry..nobody will ever disrespect you again...

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  4. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    I assume you mean Cambridge? He's known locally and has mental health issues. Also not Polish.
  5. SovietArmy

    SovietArmy Well-Known Member

    As myself from Lithuania I feel uncomfortable about some Polish community in Lithuania there are little elements of far right issues as some Polish individuals still thinking Lithuania should be part of Poland. Bear in mind I wish do not accuse all Polish population there as well Lithuanian individuals whom are on far right ideas.
  6. campanula

    campanula plant a seed

    I don't believe I claimed he was any nationality - I was just taken aback (as you would be) - course, it was Asda so I shouldn't have been. If I had to come up with a redeeming feature for our local Asda, it is for the vast picaresque variety of customers and staff who's collective demeanour has brightened many a dreary trudge round the aisles
  7. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Part of the reason some Poles I know first came here was to get away from the Catholic Nationalist government of the time run by the infamous twins. Even now modern Poland is illiberal compared to here.

    They also came here when borders were opened as they felt that Poland had rejoined Europe after being occupied by Russians. Unfortunately not all here welcomed them. I disagree that they just come here to make money and regard this society as alien. Most I know are interested in how things work here in this society. Also knowing them has enlightened me about Eastern Europe.

    There are right wing Poles. But they tend to be anti anything German or Russian for that matter. They also tend to be strongly Catholic. They get into fights with German or Russian football fans. I would not see Poles , even right wing ones, going for Nazi type politics.

    Though ive heard Poles complain about Germans even though they are liberal on other matters. Cannot say I blame them on that. They still have Grandparents telling them about WW2.
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  8. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    Bits of Lithuania were Polish before WW2. In particular Vilnius. Which had only a minority of Lithuanians in it. The majority being Jews and Poles. Most of whom did not survive the war. Vilnius was taken back from the German occupiers by Red Army containing Polish units.

    Seeing Vilnius as Polish city is not just far right idea.
  9. FNG

    FNG It Takes A Nation Of Bloggers

    my point that it's not uncommon for ex-pat communities to harbour the occassional anti-immigrant and sentimental racist bellends was aimed upthread at GC's comments not at you.Sorry should have quoted but the auto complete function on my phone plays havoc with the formatting.
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  10. FNG

    FNG It Takes A Nation Of Bloggers

    They may be as rare as rocking horse shit but they definitely do exist.Encountered a few Blood and Honour types in wisbech a few years ago and recognised the risk,seems like Nick Griffin has woken up to the potential of cross party support with the N.O.P inviting them to speak at the BNP conference



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  11. chasbo zelena

    chasbo zelena Banned Banned

    Man walks into a shop, asks for a Polish sausage.
    The shopkeeper says "are you Polish?"
    Man says "what's that got to do with anything!" If I asked for Italian sausage, would you ask me If I was Italian? If I asked for Bratwurst, would you ask me if I was German!"
    "No", the shopkeeper says...

    "It's just that you're in the home and leisure department..."
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  12. chasbo zelena

    chasbo zelena Banned Banned

    Some friend went up from Slovakia to Krakow t.o.d.

    They got drinking in a bar and met a trampy looking English bloke who invited them back to his for whisky and skunk.

    One of them, really stoned and looking for the toilet walks into a room full of mounted Violins.

    Penny Drops. :D

  13. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    tbh bits of poland were lithanuian in the past too.

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  14. love detective

    love detective secret pint

    Yep - my wife and her family are Poles who have lived in and around Vilnius for generations (which over that time it has been part of Poland, Soviet Union and Lithuania)

    I've been going out there a couple of times a year for the last 15 years or so and over that time there has been a huge increase of both systematic state and street discrimination against 'ethnic poles' (which has strong parallels with anti-muslim state & street strands in the UK)

    Lithuanian far right marches and rallies are becoming increasingly well attended and more and more using anti-polish themes as the main draw. One consequence of this is that there is a growing block of anti-fascist activity in Vilnius and elsewhere which is dominated by Poles. I was at an anti-fascist film night in Vilnius a couple of years ago which was predominantly polish (which incidentally was attacked by a contingent of Lithuanian far right with baseball bats and smoke grenades)

    Mind you there's nothing Poles (of all political stripes and none) like better than a good joke about the jews & blacks
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  15. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    Poles would love Wilno and Lwow and all the rest of the lost territories back, but would shit a brick if you suggested returning Danzig and Breslau and the rest to the Germans :D
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  16. chasbo zelena

    chasbo zelena Banned Banned

    Talking about the Baltics, interested to find that almost half of Tallinn's (Estonia) population are ethnically Russian. They watch their own TV stations, go to their own pubs and restaurants, and live an almost entirely separate existence.

    Peaceful but bristlingly so.
  17. Belushi

    Belushi 01 811 8055 R.I.P.

    A lot of the bloodshed off the 20th Century was about trying to carve homogenous nation-states out of a region where the populations were incredibly diverse and mixed up. They managed it to an extent in the end but only at the costs of millions of lives and tens of millions displaced by ethnic cleansing.
  18. Garek

    Garek Living n ADDled chaos

    Forced Rusificiation. Same with Ukraine and various other places. Out of the Baltics it is only Lithuania that's near homogeneous.
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  19. Gramsci

    Gramsci Well-Known Member

    There is a good history book about that "The Reconstruction of Nations" By Timothy Snyder.
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  20. Garek

    Garek Living n ADDled chaos

    I remember when I first got interested in Turkish history during a holiday there reading about the collapse of the Ottoman Empire. All the troubles springing up, nationalist moments, mass population exchanges concentrating specific ethnicities in specific areas. Western Romanticism supporting the creation of Greece. Pretty fucked up reading that knowing how badly that was to end up 80 years later. Same with Stalin and the Central Asian Stans. Or any area when state and ethnicity became one.
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  21. Corax

    Corax Luke 5:16

    No worries - my post was merely a stupid gag about how the whole island of Malta was awarded the GC, and 'patriots' fetishisation of military medlas etc.
  22. ItWillNeverWork

    ItWillNeverWork Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.

    Any recommended reads?
  23. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

    How nice....
  24. Casually Red

    Casually Red tomorrow belongs to me

    and a dead ukranian
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  25. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    I went to Poland skiing 3 years ago. Didn't find anything other than warm hospitality and massive portions :cool:
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  26. sim667

    sim667 Licking windows on the 303 bus.

    Coming over here, taking our racism :mad:
  27. chasbo zelena

    chasbo zelena Banned Banned

    Zakopany? Lovely place, cycled around there last month. :cool:
  28. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    Velky Tatry. Borovichka, vyprazany syr s hranolkom. Najlepshie Jest!
  29. chasbo zelena

    chasbo zelena Banned Banned

  30. friedaweed

    friedaweed Sitting down for a wee

    Szczyrk. Small resort with a couple of different places to ski. Loads of homemade snow and homemade food :) I fell in love with Golonka (SP?) Ham hocks and cabbage :)

    Na zdrowie! :D
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