Don't to c&p this cos its quite long:
Galloway, Fake Protesters and the Daily Mail
summary:
George Galloway's a lying cunt
Hmm, that article's a bit 'so what?', since there seems to be corroborating evidence from persons other than Gorgeous George. Interesting to see how violently they hate him though, I'm sure that can't be healthy.
Hmm, that article's a bit 'so what?', since there seems to be corroborating evidence from persons other than Gorgeous George. Interesting to see how violently they hate him though, I'm sure that can't be healthy.
Incidently,
If you look at the blog of Linda Jack, who is a Lib Dem, and a friend of Yasmin Whittaker-Khan,
http://lindyloosmuze.blogspot.com/2008/06/thug-or-stooge-police-officer-on-anti.html
Linda says that she was at the same party as Yasmin when they met the police officer in question.
Linda Jack confirms that Yasmin actually addressed Inspector Chris Dreyfus by name at the demo, and he responded to her, and acknowledged her.
what i don't understand is why he wouldn't have masked up to imitate black block or similar types... then he'd not have been recognised at all...
So the argument against it is that the cops wouldn't so something dumb and counter-productive? I think I see a flaw in the reasoning!
what i don't understand is why he wouldn't have masked up to imitate black block or similar types... then he'd not have been recognised at all...
Which goes back to what DB posted. If this was a provocation then they would not have used a BTP Inspector whose face had been all over the papers and who was likely to have been recognized by people in the crowd. He was probably just protesting, or getting "caught" for his own ends.
nope more that my argument at least is the the cop did something dumb...
So the argument against it is that the cops wouldn't do something dumb and counter-productive? I think I see a flaw in the reasoning!
Shouting 'kill the pigs'? Weird behaviour for a serving copper wouldn't you say?
I am not saying it isnt - just that its far more likely he was doing this on his own, for his own reasons.
But is he?Offical capacity or not he is a serving officer and should not have been inciting anything...
which might be linked to wanting to cause/incite a public disturbance regardless of offical sanction or not...
personally if he has done it then he should be fired and then jailed, and the MET regardless would/Should have to issue guidelines to officers about their attendance in future demos when 'off duty' which would ban them from being their, as well as by default then opening up the flood gates to compensation for anyone injured in the clash by the police...
Offical capacity or not he is a serving officer and should not have been inciting anything...
even if precedent says this isn't always what happens...
on the flip side what would the off duty copper have done if he was preventing a public disturbance and it was revalled that in a confrontational situation he was one of 'them' rather than with the protestors... doesn't bode well for their individual safety...
One would imagine that, if the FIT teams, or indeed anyone else, has evidence that this officer was doing what he is alleged to have done, then disciplinary (or even criminal) action will shortly follow.
'outed' being the operative word. It's awfully shabby, but not unexpected for Galloway to capitalise on the Mail's homophobia.Well, now that he has been outed by politicians maybe. Otherwise, I think not!
Love disclaimer no.1 - everyone brings home a different story - that proves beyond doubt they are lying (well, thats what everyone shouts every time anyone suggests that discrepancies in police accounts are as a result of that sort of "fog of war" thing ... )
The obvious answer is ... that it wasn't agent provocateur ...what i don't understand is why he wouldn't have masked up to imitate black block or similar types... then he'd not have been recognised at all...
You can get treatment for serious paranoia, you know ...Well I guess it all depedns how serious the operation was...after all were they really expecting a huge demo they could exploit?
...or were they just "keeping their hand in" in such techniques as it were using what could be expected to be a fairly lifeless rump demo for practise?
So you'd remove their human rights simply because they are police officers? Fuck off ...... which would ban them from being their,
If what he was doing merited subsequent investigation (and the vast majority of stuff like that is never pursued subsequently) then his picture would have been circulated and, if he had been identified (which he probably would) he would have been charged / disciplined just the same.Well, now that he has been outed by politicians maybe. Otherwise, I think not!
So you'd remove their human rights simply because they are police officers? Fuck off ...
or the Police have an active policy of systematic instantatious sacking for any officer who is found to have acted in this manner and they are subsiquently charged with some new offence which carries with it a sentence of 40 years, no parole. Such is the seriousness of what he's done.
I think we've got an agent provocateur posting on Urban. I hope they're paying you well to post this nonsense.