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police and evening standard outside the albert/house of bottles in huge police raid

To be honest I don't know why you're being so covert either, but PM me if you can. Having a pub and off licence next door doesn't seem an issue, unless you're a licensee having to deal with cheaper tinnies being smuggled in.
 
From my experience the issue isn't really dealing so much an issue of dealing as of aggressive behavior resulting from people drinking heavily outside late into the night. I've seen 3 or 4 threats of violence, or actual violence outside the House of Bottles / The Albert in the last year or so from people drinking outside. As well as people getting off their faces outside then trying to make trouble inside the pub.

That's mainly a lack of policing issue (both Tony and various landlords from the Albert have been on at the police for decent patrols for ages), but I think there is also a licensing angle too.

I don't have a problem with having an off license there (I use Tony's loads and he's a top bloke and have signed the petition). But I wonder if curtailing the license hours on certain nights as well as a commitment form the police to beat policing (as opposed to shock and awe operations every few years) is the way forward of reducing trouble and safeguarding the future of Tony's and the Albert's businesses.
 
This situation is really crap - to say the least - I agree with everyone whose been speaking up for Tony.

When I was in there the other week just before the big 'sting' he was filling in some kind of legal looking forms that looked like he was trying to stop certain people hanging around outside Bottles. ASBOs? Restraining orders? Something like that.

If I can swing it I'll work from home tomorrow and attend the meeting at 2pm.
 
memespring said:
From my experience the issue isn't really dealing so much an issue of dealing as of aggressive behavior resulting from people drinking heavily outside late into the night. I've seen 3 or 4 threats of violence, or actual violence outside the House of Bottles / The Albert in the last year or so from people drinking outside. As well as people getting off their faces outside then trying to make trouble inside the pub.

That's mainly a lack of policing issue (both Tony and various landlords from the Albert have been on at the police for decent patrols for ages), but I think there is also a licensing angle too.

I don't have a problem with having an off license there (I use Tony's loads and he's a top bloke and have signed the petition). But I wonder if curtailing the license hours on certain nights as well as a commitment form the police to beat policing (as opposed to shock and awe operations every few years) is the way forward of reducing trouble and safeguarding the future of Tony's and the Albert's businesses.
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Yep. Agree 100%.
 
OK, I've just spoken to Tony and he's not been given details of which room in the Town Hall tomorrow (Tuesday14th April), just to be there at 2pm for a meeting regarding licensing that is open, which means people can turn up and watch. Whether there can be any supporting statements I have no idea. I suggest people get there a little bit earlier.
 
rx -e 'puts "those chaps are making #{20000 / 10/ 6} pounds a __day__, assuming six ten-hour days"'
those chaps are making 333 pounds a __day__, assuming six ten-hour days
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That's working a ten hour day six days a week. Forgive me for saying so, but I've always thought that drug dealers are __lazy__ that's why they sell drugs. I wouldn't have put them down as having stamina or staying piwer of any kind. The gov't should make that stuff, (what ever they sell), legal so people stop making this kind of money.


*Poll* Would you write code for a drug dealer if he was paying you that kind of money?

and besides, if I wanted drugs the last place that i would look would be the HOB. Any where outside on CHL is fine for that. Why close his shop?
 
The £20,000 thing - that could be some creative reporting by the Sun, and actually refer to the total amount? The statement by the police talks about dealers (plural):

"the dealers were making up to 1,000 sales a week" and "These dealers are making about £20,000 a week from about 1,000 deals".

... but that's not as good a headline (not that I'm saying I have much confidence in the met's maths either, but might explain where it came from).
 
Of course the police have no idea about earnings. The policy is to get your message out there first regardless of the acuracy - we've seen it enough to know.
 
There's so much fantasy in this whole thing that I would ignore all the 'facts' in it. Except for the bit about how many phones you can fit up your arse. I've just proved that.
 
nick h. said:
There's so much fantasy in this whole thing that I would ignore all the 'facts' in it. Except for the bit about how many phones you can fit up your arse. I've just proved that.
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Two phones *and* the charger too according to the SLP.

I'd imagine you'd have to develop quite an unusual walk to accommodate that lot.
 
I was a D’s –the store down the street – tonight at 8 pm to sign the petition and the rabble have moved on to in front of this business. The owner is the nicest guy and the crowd was clearly doing his head in.

What hope do these small businesses have unless there are police patrols to disperse the people off their heads? If there is an exclusion zone (as there is on Rushcroft Rd) it needs to be enforced by a police presence. Tony shouldn’t be expected to police his own frontage anymore than he already does (which is a lot). Certainly KFC is not expected to see off the skunk dealers on the pavement outside. Unlike every other part of Brixton, I’ve never been offered drugs outside House of Bottles –just had to get through the crack heads (who don’t give a shit about anyone but use the blind spot to hide) to get cigs.
 
I have a copy of the petition which I am going to stick in the shop downstairs from me. hopefully that will drum up some more community support. Keep us informed as to what happens at the licensing meeting today Mrs M.
 
tufty79 said:
just to let y'all know there's apparently a "drugs raid" going on outside the house of bottles and the albert, on coldharbour lane ....

there are evening standard photographers there an' all.
and polis photographers.....
be careful if you're out that way tonight, folks ;).

xxx
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About fucking time. Hate the crack peddlars, I does.
 
DCI Sedgemore said that it is common practice for veteran dealers to hide the majority of their stash in their anus.
He said when a sale is near they then remove some and put it in their mouth.



A2M'ing yourself is fucked.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Don't they manage to get the most fantastic quantities of stuff up their arses in Papillon?
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I'm sure they did, but I'm not quite sure why anyone would want to put a phone's charger up their arse.

I mean, those three prongs are going to smart and chaff, and make no mistake.
 
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