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I'll see loads of pots early on by limping almost any position with a variety of hands and will also then call small reraises, I'll sometimes make big, well disguised, hands and I'll also end up with the image of someone who is loose and plays any 2 cards but once the blinds creep up I'll tighten up and play so called proper poker where position becomes more important and hands I play I'll be raising from the off.
 
baffled said:
I'll see loads of pots early on by limping almost any position with a variety of hands and will also then call small reraises, I'll sometimes make big, well disguised, hands and I'll also end up with the image of someone who is loose and plays any 2 cards but once the blinds creep up I'll tighten up and play so called proper poker where position becomes more important and hands I play I'll be raising from the off.

I agree, especially in smallish sit and gos, i will play nearly any hand in any position early on, by limping in,

the reason for limping at this stage for me, is that the blinds arnt really worth stealing, then if you get called, or reraised, youve wasted more chips, and can get tempted to maybe fire a second raise on the flop etc. and end up pot commited.

Also certain hands are only profitable hands in big pots, so calling can encourage more callers etc. although saying that, im not too scientific about pot odds in tournements, but id say in money play, especially limit, its really important.

As for AA, its such a strong hand, it still wins so many pots, that unless the blinds are huge, id defaintly want 1 or 2 people on the flop with me, although its important to not feel the pot is automatically owed to you, and be at least decent enough at post flop play to be able fold it if theres a dangerous flop

I guess if you were right near a big prize increase in a tourney though, it might be worth playing extra safe on it.
 
The danger in playing mediocre holdings is not from missing your hand, but from hitting a middling hand and not being sure whether you are ahead or not.

You can throw away a lot of chips on such blind alleys.
 
baffled said:
I'll see loads of pots early on by limping almost any position with a variety of hands and will also then call small reraises, I'll sometimes make big, well disguised, hands and I'll also end up with the image of someone who is loose and plays any 2 cards but once the blinds creep up I'll tighten up and play so called proper poker where position becomes more important and hands I play I'll be raising from the off.
This pretty much sums up my approach.

Idaho has a point about middling hands. It's the discipline of chucking them out, even though you might be leaving that counts here. I've found that following them up wins sometimes, but loses you big more often than not.
 
You are supposed to raise 3/4 times the big blind pre flop if you have a decent premium or potential hand...in order to reduce your competition down to a few players for the turn.

The more players, more chance you get beat.

You ideally want to be up aganst no more than 4 players...get a big pot going, and b3e in with a strong chance of blagging the pot.

Also, once you start raising....NEVER CHECK. You MUST continue to represent strength in your hand through to the showdown, unless you really know you are fucked and out on a limb

once players sniff you are a bluffing, lying cunt, they'll have you marked and that's it, no more pulling sly ones...

It's a tough game.. I love it though
 
fractionMan said:
My current problem is knowing what to play on the cash 5/6 handed tables that are all over 24hour poker.

yeh those can be tough, i generally hear play more unsuited high cards, ie. KJo etc. than you would on full tables, and maybe a bit less on the low suited connectors etc. due to less people on the flop and less big pots...
 
never check? Are you mad? In a multiplayer hand its all about checking and hoping someone else does the raising for you. Not representing anything is a lot better then representing the nuts especilly if you don't have it. Then reraise scare evrybody else out and take the bloke for everything he has.

I get more milage out of a check/reraise then doing anything else. Although obviously if you are in an early positon with a few people behind you and on a loose table then this works best and there are instances when you get beaten the fuck out of.

Also if not alot of people call the persons raise or god forbid someone reraises him before you then you know that one of them is likely to be on something big. I like checking as it lets you find out more about what cards the people have rather then just you raisng and people calling they could be on almost anythign especilly if your only raising by a small ammount.



dave
 
Most of what you are all saying is fine in online games against relatively unskilled opponents. Playing live against someone who can read you and you are stuffed. Being in any way predictable will get you killed in such games.
 
I play league poker as well as online and do allright(out of field of 40 i've finished 11th or better 3 times and only once finished outside points) but yeah i got beaten badly doing that for the time i didn't get there. Walked into a huge hand and didn't have enough left over to not call him when he reraised me after the flop.

Its not like i do that all the time like you say its not all abpout being predictable but ost of my massive hands are won by doing that that of thing its good for when people are on the blag as well. And for the a/a hand i wouldn't do it as i would play strong from the start but in certain circumstances its a good way of building up chips quickly.


dave
 
Played online last night on heads up tourneys. Lost with JJ to AA (preflop) twice in a row!
 
I just got knocked out of a 10 euro tourney by a bigger flush. The bastard raised quite a lot when the flop came down so I pinned him on top pair or trips, someone called behind him giving me decent pot odds. but he had nothing but a K flush draw. When he bet on the turn and I'd made a flush I thought I had him beat, but it was not to be. One all in later and... that's poker.

Grrr.
 
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