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Pete, do you search your flat for potential issues? If it isn't leaking what is the problem?
I haven't been maintaining it for years, this is just two problems, there are loads of problems, they're not in my head. Real tangible ones that I wont throw this thread off in a tangent with.
 
thanks for that, where is that waterweld from please?
I think it can be got from Amazon, or cheaper at a good DIY shop. I banged a nail through a pipe and fixed it with similar stuff 17 years ago and the pipe is still ok. No plumber... kerching!
 
I haven't been maintaining it for years, this is just two problems, there are loads of problems, they're not in my head. Real tangible ones that I wont throw this thread off in a tangent with.

Pete this is potentially a replacement job for the future but it is not leaking and is not pressing.

Deal with he real tangible ones perhaps and not elevate non-current problems in this way?
 
Pete this is potentially a replacement job for the future but it is not leaking and is not pressing.

Deal with he real tangible ones perhaps and not elevate non-current problems in this way?
True, I will, the leaky roof is more pressing.
 
I know, but as ATOMIC SUPLEX said, in this post Please help me not get ripped off by plumber
"it's nearly broken and not having the parts at hand when it suddenly goes isn't ever fun. It might not just start with a tiny drip. It's an easy and not very costly fix."

ATOMIC SUPLEX can be a bit of a worryWort too though, panpete. There are loads of posts on here telling you not to worry, and giving you good solid reasons why you don't need to and only one that agrees with, and that's from someone who worries.
 
Forget about it. If it did leak (which it doesn't) it would only dribble when you were pouring water down the sink. In that case you'd have plenty of time to call a plumber. My aunt had an actual leak from under her sink waste and just put a bucket there for the dribble to go in. I think she got around to getting it fixed about a year later.

I did this too. I had a bucket under my sink for ages. No harm, no foul. It eventually got fixed (new waste).
 
My waste pipe is worse than that and, so far, it isn't leaking. I've been here almost five years. Don't worry about this.

At the very worst it will leak slowly at first. Even then it will take a good few months before its a problem, normally. If it becomes a problem the only water that comes out of the trap will be water that has come out of the sink.

It's really not worth worrying about.
 
I should add, I'm very bad at getting things fixed when a problem first arises, and usually wait until either a) I'm embarrassed enough by my nonchalance to get it fixed, or b) it gets so bad I really have no choice.

I had 3 constantly leaking radiators for several years (meaning no heating in 3 rooms of my 5 room (inc. bathroom) house, as well as regularly having to change the baking trays I kept underneath them to catch the water); my fridge was broken for several years (meaning I kept rotating old plastic milk cartons filled with water/ice from the freezer - which was working - into the fridge, sometimes a couple of times a day in summer); the aforementioned waste leak under the sink; my front door didn't lock from the inside for several years so if it was used you'd have to go out again before locking up for the night before bed and lock it from the outside and come in again round the back; I could go on but I'd just be embarrassing myself further.

I'm a paranoid person, pete, but my laziness (and inability to deal with stuff, tbh) wins out a lot of the time, and so far nothing has broken beyond repair or cost tens of thousands of pounds because of my negligence. I'm slightly concerned that the corner of the house is going to fall off one night because there are some cracks but tbh the cracks have been there in some form or another since I moved in (17 years ago) and if it does happen I'm sure I'll cope with the resulting shitstorm somehow or another. We all get through things in the end :)
 
I should add, I'm very bad at getting things fixed when a problem first arises, and usually wait until either a) I'm embarrassed enough by my nonchalance to get it fixed, or b) it gets so bad I really have no choice.

I had 3 constantly leaking radiators for several years (meaning no heating in 3 rooms of my 5 room (inc. bathroom) house, as well as regularly having to change the baking trays I kept underneath them to catch the water); my fridge was broken for several years (meaning I kept rotating old plastic milk cartons filled with water/ice from the freezer - which was working - into the fridge, sometimes a couple of times a day in summer); the aforementioned waste leak under the sink; my front door didn't lock from the inside for several years so if it was used you'd have to go out again before locking up for the night before bed and lock it from the outside and come in again round the back; I could go on but I'd just be embarrassing myself further.

I'm a paranoid person, pete, but my laziness (and inability to deal with stuff, tbh) wins out a lot of the time, and so far nothing has broken beyond repair or cost tens of thousands of pounds because of my negligence. I'm slightly concerned that the corner of the house is going to fall off one night because there are some cracks but tbh the cracks have been there in some form or another since I moved in (17 years ago) and if it does happen I'm sure I'll cope with the resulting shitstorm somehow or another. We all get through things in the end :)
Home maintenance can be difficult for some. I dont mean that patronising. I don't spot things that need doing, until I get anxious and then I seem to spot everything and more.
 
Atomic Suplex is not a plumber.

Please stop worrying about this!

It's not something to worry about, think of it as something to get prepared for. A luxury. There is advance warning and plenty of time to sort something out in advance. It's not a major pluming job, I take all my sink plumbing apart for a good clean out about once every two years.

A slightly worse scenario, but I had a dodgy looking tap in the kitchen, sometimes I got a little drip but I could fix it up with pte and all was well. One day (a Sunday) it just burst and shot water all over my kitchen. Luckily it was the daytime and I was on hand to turn the water off. My only choice was to go to B&Q and buy what they had in stock (more than I would have liked to have paid) so that I could get the water back on.
Obviously water is not going to spray anywhere from an empty sink so nothing terrible is going to happen, but I can't see any harm in looking in advance for a solution. . . Which is what this thread is already about. It's not an emergency for sure, but I am not sure its an 'if it ain't broke' situation either.

But sure, it's nothing to have sleepless nights over and you can always wait to see if it drops, you'll have plenty of time.
 
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As for your kitchen sink it will be fine. There should be some sort of sealant between the waste outlet and the inside of the sink which should have set years ago. Even if the broken nut and washer were to suddenly fall off it's highly unlikely that the waste would leak. :)
 
Whoever installed that needs stringing up by the ball cock. I'm suprised the bath actually drains as the pipe runs uphill at the left of the picture. :facepalm:
WouldBe This really worries me. Can anyone offer me any reassurance please.
Should I get that plumber out to cut the fibreglass so he can have access to the shower trap in case of leaks, or is there any other problems?
It's been like this for years and its a real headache.
 
WouldBe This really worries me. Can anyone offer me any reassurance please.
Should I get that plumber out to cut the fibreglass so he can have access to the shower trap in case of leaks, or is there any other problems?
It's been like this for years and its a real headache.
Sometimes you can have a shower trap that is accessed from inside the shower tray in case of blockages so you may have one of those fitted.

As for the shower tray needing 'unblocking' every time you use it, one of those pictures, showing the 2 waste pipes, both of them run uphill. So the shower may not be blocked it's most likely that you need to use the plunger to force the water up hill to go down the drain. If the shower is the rear most pipe in that photo the problem could be solved by removing the 2 90 degree bends at the left of the picture and putting a new piece of straight waste pipe in directly to the shower. This should only be a few pounds (<£10) in parts but then depending on the plumber you could have a call out charge + no more than an hours labour charge on top.

As for cutting the fibreglass in case of future leaks I wouldn't. It will look a mess once you've done it and may weaken the showertray. Only worry about about leaks as and when they happen. :)
 
Sometimes you can have a shower trap that is accessed from inside the shower tray in case of blockages so you may have one of those fitted.

As for the shower tray needing 'unblocking' every time you use it, one of those pictures, showing the 2 waste pipes, both of them run uphill. So the shower may not be blocked it's most likely that you need to use the plunger to force the water up hill to go down the drain. If the shower is the rear most pipe in that photo the problem could be solved by removing the 2 90 degree bends at the left of the picture and putting a new piece of straight waste pipe in directly to the shower. This should only be a few pounds (<£10) in parts but then depending on the plumber you could have a call out charge + no more than an hours labour charge on top.

As for cutting the fibreglass in case of future leaks I wouldn't. It will look a mess once you've done it and may weaken the showertray. Only worry about about leaks as and when they happen. :)
WouldBe The shower is the front pipe in the photo, does this cause a problem? thanks
 
Is it causing you a problem Pete?

Do you have a leak under the sink or a problem with the shower at the moment?

You said earlier you were going to focus on pressing problems rather than worry about things that might happen in the future.
That's the thing, I don't have access to the shower trap, it could be leaking now. I have concrete floor in my bathroom so a slow leak may not show in the flat below.
 
It's just that the plumber said i need to ring him tomorrow if I am concerned there may be a leak in the trap, however, I never thought about the hole in the fibreglass being weakened.
The pipe just leads into the fibreglass on the underside of the shower tray so I aint got a clue what's going on under there.
 
That's the thing, I don't have access to the shower trap, it could be leaking now. I have concrete floor in my bathroom so a slow leak may not show in the flat below.

There is no thing. There is no evidence of a problem. So there is no problem as far as you know. You are imagining there could be.

This is like saying I won't leave the house ever again because there is a chance I might get run over and then spending the rest of your life fearing that you will get run over.
 
There is no thing. There is no evidence of a problem. So there is no problem as far as you know. You are imagining there could be.

This is like saying I won't leave the house ever again because there is a chance I might get run over and then spending the rest of your life fearing that you will get run over.
It's cos I live in a leasehold flat and worried as the previous owner has toyed with parts of the flat that are not in his demise, ie pipes, among many other things. I bought a lemon when I bought this flat.
I saw the psychiatrist on thursday and he said I am doing really well coming off alcohol, opiates, pregabalin and am doing well in my taper.
He said that the benzo taper straight after the pregabalin taper will cause anxiety, and I will need plenty of reassurance as I will worry about daft things, but he said the reassurance will assuage my anxiety, and this reduction in anxiety will reduce other withdrawal symptoms. He wants me to hold my dose for the time being, because i just got off pregabalin, and came off the other stuff last year.
 
It's cos I live in a leasehold flat and worried as the previous owner has toyed with parts of the flat that are not in his demise, ie pipes, among many other things. I bought a lemon when I bought this flat.
I know this. You have posted about it numerous times. I have read your posts. You neither have a leaky sink nor shower at this time. You have a leaky roof which is pressing though. Why not focus on that instead of looking for currently non existent problems?


I saw the psychiatrist on thursday and he said I am doing really well coming off alcohol, opiates, pregabalin and am doing well in my taper.
He said that the benzo taper straight after the pregabalin taper will cause anxiety, and I will need plenty of reassurance as I will worry about daft things, but he said the reassurance will assuage my anxiety, and this reduction in anxiety will reduce other withdrawal symptoms. He wants me to hold my dose for the time being, because i just got off pregabalin, and came off the other stuff last year.

I also know about your drug issues and tapers pete. I also know that you periodically get very anxious and post a flurry of worried threads about x, y, z. You get a lot of reassurance around here Pete when that happens, like now.

Telling me about what your doctor said doesn't change a thing. Your sink is not leaking. Your shower is not leaking.

Your lived experience is that neither your sink nor your shower are leaking, yet you are asking people to reassure you because you are worried that they might in the future.

You are asking us to collude in you not trusting your lived experience which is they are not leaking now so they are nothing to worry about. You are asking us to collude in you worrying about something that might never happen.
 
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