Playstation 3 delayed in Europe till March 2007
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Bob_the_lost
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lobster said:
Cutting the military spending to improve the nation's kill ratio on CS seems at first glance to be a rather odd move...
DarthSydodyas
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Get the nation hooked on WoW.Bob_the_lost said:Cutting the military spending to improve the nation's kill ratio on CS seems at first glance to be a rather odd move...
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GarfieldLeChat
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yeah but guarentteed that only comapritivleyrecently newer machine which are premade (dell tiny sony etc etc) are going to have gone for the more expeinsive component option ... after all that's how they make their money innit...lobster said:
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Comment Is Free get in on the Sony bashing act.
At last some bad news from microsoft - their HD DVD addon is gonna cost 200 quid, bringing the combined price of 360 + HDDVD to more than the PS3 ..and it cant use the HDDVD for games.
Ive been quite amazed the past few weeks to see the outpouring of bile towards Sony, yeh theyve cocked up but the alternative of having Microsoft monopolise PCs and Consoles makes me shudder.
Nintendo were no better either, they make great games aye, but they treated 3rd party devs like shit when they had 90%+ of the market, thats the reason Sony were able to take control so easily (that and Nintendos refusal to use non-proprietary media).
..and it cant use the HDDVD for games.Ive been quite amazed the past few weeks to see the outpouring of bile towards Sony, yeh theyve cocked up but the alternative of having Microsoft monopolise PCs and Consoles makes me shudder.
Nintendo were no better either, they make great games aye, but they treated 3rd party devs like shit when they had 90%+ of the market, thats the reason Sony were able to take control so easily (that and Nintendos refusal to use non-proprietary media).
DarthSydodyas
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Fuck that, i'd buy a seperate (and superior) HD-DVD unit. The games run fine on the 360 as they are.
GarfieldLeChat
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it will be though with in 2 years i reckon by which time i reckon they may have designed a decent an seisble wireless protocol which is inherently secure as wellSunray said:
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G. Fieendish
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Anyone care to comment on the news that Sony's planning to discount it's "base" version of Playstation 3, in Japan, when they launch it in November..... I wonder why ? 
DarthSydodyas
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I think its because the XBOX360 with HD-DVD bundle will be around £400 mark, making it even tougher for the PS3.
An aside: I read last week that IBM are gonna be basing their latest supercomputer around the PS3's Cell processor, and this computer is gonna be a real mutha, dwarfing those that have gone before it by achieving 1.6 "petaflops" - prolly the first time this daft-sounding word has needed to be used
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5322704.stm
It's surely an endorsement of the power of the cell, dunno if it will help much with the marketing.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5322704.stm
It's surely an endorsement of the power of the cell, dunno if it will help much with the marketing.
Cid
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Whoa, big fuck up from Sony there... Missing a Christmas release is a very bad thing.
Mind you the 360 has only sold around 5 million (1/20th of total PS2 sales, which have actually been outselling the 360 in Japan iirc) throughout its production, and MS only sold 1.5 million over their release period, which is actually fewer than the amount of PS3s Sony are shipping for christmas. I'm also highly dubious about MS' release of the HD-DVD player... I can't see how they'll make money off it - with a console much of the profit comes through licensing etc, and obviously you won't get that with DVDs. However, their plans of shipping 10 million 360 units could prove to be succesful if they do it with a good game bundle...
e2a: oh yeah, it's also pretty much a dead cert that sony will sell all their Christmas stock of PS3s as demand will be very high... This means they can afford to keep the price high and therefore actually turn a profit.
Mind you the 360 has only sold around 5 million (1/20th of total PS2 sales, which have actually been outselling the 360 in Japan iirc) throughout its production, and MS only sold 1.5 million over their release period, which is actually fewer than the amount of PS3s Sony are shipping for christmas. I'm also highly dubious about MS' release of the HD-DVD player... I can't see how they'll make money off it - with a console much of the profit comes through licensing etc, and obviously you won't get that with DVDs. However, their plans of shipping 10 million 360 units could prove to be succesful if they do it with a good game bundle...
e2a: oh yeah, it's also pretty much a dead cert that sony will sell all their Christmas stock of PS3s as demand will be very high... This means they can afford to keep the price high and therefore actually turn a profit.
Crispy
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dervish said:
It's their internal structure apparently. Forget where I read this, but:
Sony has a company tradition of multiple small teams who are free to work on their own projects. This is how the walkman was made possible - nobody in the compnay thought it would work, but one small team stuck at it and really innovated. The origninal playstation was a similar story. This structure is great for innovation, but useless for mass production or integration between sectors. The hardware team makes MP3 players, but they don't get to talk much to the software team who make the Connect program - which is why it sucks. There's no central strategy to sony, so they flounder around, not putting their full weight behind any one product or business.
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Cid said:
You sure about that? I heard they're losing around £100 on each of even the high end box...
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Kid_Eternity said:
Not sure, no - have they even properly confirmed release price yet? I remember reading about the units costing $490 or something and selling for $400, but I wouldn't be surprised if they hike up the US price, and according to wiki Japan's leading consumer goods shop has set a price of US$675... Further look at wiki reveals that the basic is predicted at US$499, premium at US$599 (in the US) and in Japan the basic is $429 and the preium is on open pricing (ie the retailer sets the price). Can't find any decent estimates of manufacturing costs. Some say $900 but these are from jan/feb and may not be accurate now. At any rate there're always massive losses on the console which are gradually recouped from game licensing and long production periods (the longer you're making a product, the cheaper it gets as you recoup startup costs and refine manufacturing). This may well be why MS lost nearly $1billion on the Xbox - simply not enough units sold to pull off 'a GTA'.
DarthSydodyas
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Wots up with their decks? Aside from the market having a billion variations on HD(V/CAM/cock)
pk
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Their flagship HD deck is a piece of shit - everyone's been desperate for some good HD field kit and Sony totally blew it - people are going for JVC, Panasonic, anything that works right now - and this will definitely affect the sales of their camera gear and accessories.
People are pissed off, and they've spent lots of money too.
This will only further confuse the HD format variant issue, because Sony usually lead the way in broadcast once the technology has been settled on.
People are pissed off, and they've spent lots of money too.
This will only further confuse the HD format variant issue, because Sony usually lead the way in broadcast once the technology has been settled on.
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pk said:
No doubt we'll have the Ed swooping in soon to tell us that despite all that the Sony laptops are the best around (cue pro Mac zealots reacting and derailing thread)!
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