Plane Stupid shut down Stansted Airport

[free spirit]

their 'direct action' ain't gonna change anything

On the contrary, this issue is very winnable, the wider anti-airport expansion campaign has a huge level of local support in the affected areas, high level cabinet support, support from large numbers of MP's, support from the local council, and support from (most?) independent transport experts. Pretty much the only people dead set in favour of it are Gordon Brown, and his new transport secretary lackey, who appear to have fallen for the industry lobbiest's bullshit, plus a section of the population who've also fallen for the corporate line that the nasty envrionmentalists are trying to them of their holidays, as propagated by the Sun and company.

 

[elbows]

You shouldnt worry about boring crusty people getting in the way of your fun. Resource woes & economic doom will get in the way of your fun.

Peoples ideas about what is fun, and what is practical are going to change so much in the next couple of decades. Ignore this for as long as possible if you like, it will bite you on the lifestyle choices in the end.

 

[free spirit]

Years ago, yes.

me too.

shall we play again, or should I just concede that you've won the book reading competition 1-0?

 

[danny la rouge]

me too.

shall we play again, or should I just concede that you've won the book reading competition 1-0?

Are you just feeling a bit grumpy or something?

I just thought you might find it interesting. I mentioned it in the context of your comments about Steve's link, which you said was utopian or something. I wondered if you found Bookchin utopian, as some do.

I wasn't playing book whist or anything. Although if you're challenging me...

 

[free spirit]

Are you just feeling a bit grumpy or something?

I just thought you might find it interesting. I mentioned it in the context of your comments about Steve's link, which you said was utopian or something. I wondered if you found Bookchin utopian, as some do.

I wasn't playing book whist or anything. Although if you're challenging me...

lol - yeah, sorry I may have been getting a bit grumpy, just a bit dismayed to find so little support for an action and campaign I see as being absolutely crucial.

Having actually googled it, and found a preview (full introductions and cover page), I'm thinking that maybe I have read actually read it as the cover looks strangely familiar, and I was getting a proper deja vu feeling reading the introduction. I think I probably covered it as part of the background reading to my degree, but that was over a decade of frying my brain ago, and before I'd really sussed out what was what.

If I get some book tokens for christmas, I think I'll get myself a copy.

eta : 2:2 score draw (+DLR get's bonus points for being able to remember what he's read)

 

[chilango]

lol - yeah, sorry I may have been getting a bit grumpy, just a bit dismayed to find so little support for an action and campaign I see as being absolutely crucial.

free spirit,

please don't take my quetsions and criticisms of this particular action as an indication that I don't care.

Rather, that our (as a society) response to climate change is too important to mess up with ill-considered grand-standing and posturing.

 

[danny la rouge]

eta : 2:2 score draw (+DLR get's bonus points for being able to remember what he's read)

oh, God, you've no idea. I buy books I've already got, and only realise when I get to the ending.

 

[october_lost]

According to the guy who popped into the social space they were using recently, "theyre all a bunch of toffs..." which sort of explains the crap politics.