Plaid Cymru's Image Change

Discussion in 'Wales/Cymru' started by chilango, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. lewislewis

    lewislewis Lumumba Cymru

    Nwnm...most workers haven't ever read Trotsky. They see the Labour party (or social democratic Old Labour) as socialist.
     
  2. nwnm

    nwnm total fucking user!

    "They see the Labour party (or social democratic Old Labour) as socialist" They used to yes - but how bad was the slump in turnout in elections recently? So much so that new labourites claim that nobody bothers to vote for them any more as they are so happy with their policies.... Theres another way of looking at this - disillusionment. The same thing that caused tory voters to stay away in droves; which is how Blair came to power in the first place. Turning apathy into action is the main problem (the pensions crisis may or may not be a detonator here, but needs engagement by those who consider themselves on the left)
     
  3. lewislewis

    lewislewis Lumumba Cymru

    Oh I agree, but the people that don't vote aren't abstaining because the far-left is telling them to!
     
  4. nwnm

    nwnm total fucking user!

    Correct! They are doing it because they don't see any alternative
     
  5. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It's an old thread but it seems the best place for this



     
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  6. 8ball

    8ball Considerably more oppressed than yow

    Sion Actor is ... Myncfish!
     
  7. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

    A small step in the right direction.

    (Yes i know legalisation trumps decriminalisation. Yes I know drugs policy is set from Westminster not Cardiff.)

    Decriminalise drugs, Plaid Cymru says
     
  8. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Well-Known Member

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  9. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Well-Known Member

  10. planetgeli

    planetgeli There's no future in England's dreaming

  11. DexterTCN

    DexterTCN Well-Known Member

    No the job is not done, not by a long shot. You do the job if you choose to.

    Yes, we lost the first indy (against the might of the british state and media and corporations... by just over 5%) but we're stronger now and we have a lot more experience...we should win next time...and they know that still won't be the end of it. You can do the same if it's what you want. We'll support you if you want us to.

    No-one's forcing you either/any way or another way. Just willing to lend a hand if that's what you or anyone else decides to do.

    Because fuck westminster and the corrupt ****s in it and around it and feeding off it and addicted to it and worshipping it :)

    They suck up everything from everyone, they don't give a fuck about you, me, your kids, your friends...they do not give a fuck.

    If you can't tear it down, make it irrelevant, remove it as an influence. Show that you can do much better without them.

    Have you seen what's happened up here? You want that stuff, you have to. 38% drop in crime, wage rises for nhs staff, free education/prescriptions, actively pro-immigration, we look after the old and the young and we don't have full powers. 11 years of limited power.

    You can probably do better than us.

    If you want to.

    /steps off soap-box
     

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