Discussion in 'mobiles, tablets and wearable tech' started by cybershot, Aug 9, 2018.
In come the video reviews
Here's the official page. The 3 starts from $799 and the XL from $899 so way out of my price bracket.
This is good
Google Pixel 3: Make every day more extraordinary
The camera was already class-leading and there's some useful stuff in here
The trick is. Don’t release a 512GB model and then you can’t charge that much as it doesn’t exist.
No headphone jack!
And that notch!
The pixel stand is $75!!!
As I said right from the start - the notch is crap and the lack of a headphone socket sucks on any phone. Being Android, there'll be no end of super cheap alternatives to the Pixel stand, not that I'll be buying one.
To be fair, it’s pretty cool. But an accessory that basically is a google home dock for your phone should cost as much as the google home mini (£50) if not less. In my opinion.
Well, you're getting Google Home *and* a wireless charging dock. And I'd be surprised if you won't be able to pick it up for less than £70 after a while.
To put things into context with the price. And no doubt the specs are probably better on the pixel 3, you certainly get a better camera but The iPhone xr at 64gb storage As apples base competitor. Costs less.
They’re definitely putting a lot of effort into promoting the camera - eg partnering with Annie Leibovitz and
I mean sure this doesn’t actually say anything about the camera apart from “google really wants to promote it” but maybe, in a world where there are increasingly few obvious differences between phones in terms of hardware, cameras (and their software) are one of the few distinguishing factors.
With favourable lighting and a talented photographer, I'd say it's been possible to create magazine quality on all sorts of phones for years on end.
That said, the camera in the last Pixel was one of the very best, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Pixel 3 has the best mobile camera EVAH!
*watches Pixel 2 prices*
Yeah, a basic phone camera certainly has the basic power to do a magazine cover, plus all these magazine shoots (and I'm pretty sure I've heard of it being done before) will have full studio lighting, auxiliary lenses and a lot of photoshop too - and people who know how to play to the phone's strengths.
It's an interesting marketing move though, with both Google and Apple trying really hard to promote the cameras on their phones. There used to be a "premium compact" market of high-spec but easy-to-use cameras basically for rich (or aspirational) people. Now that phones have taken over the market that compacts previously had, maybe it's a similar group being chased.
Ohm the charger is rather clever:
Here's the promo
Absolutely fucking hideous.
John Gruber, Daring Fireball:
“I watched the Made by Google keynote video, and was in New York yesterday for some hands-on time with their new products. Nicole Nguyen’s summary of the Pixel 3 is the best I’ve seen — really does capture just about everything you should know about it. She’s got a video of the new Call Screening feature in action — man oh man, do I want that feature on iOS.”
Turns out that charging thing is pretty good - Google Pixel Stand review: The best accessory Google has ever made
The camera is chuffing great - Google Pixel 3 and 3 XL review: the best camera gets a better phone
And the display even better - DisplayMate gives Pixel 3 XL highest-ever grade of A+, excels in every test
Simpler than that, it's the only remaining hardware function that's still got any meaningful development left in it, and thus the only straightforward product differentiator, or 'thing to sell'.
There's a little more going on in the world of device-bundled software but to a fair extent, and a growing one, you can just wait for that and it'll eventually arrive on older hardware. By the time that really stops happening and you feel like you're missing out on things, the device is probably worn out.
Here's how some of the camera magic works:
Google AI Blog: See Better and Further with Super Res Zoom on the Pixel 3
Here's some whooping
Interesting piece -
Why Google’s Pixel phones matter
Tempted editor ?
Out of my price range, sadly.
Shot on a Pixel 3 apparently. Could probably do the same with a load of current high end phones.
John Gruber, who does the Daring Fireball blog, was a very big thumbs up on the computational photography.
He went to the launch, and in his last podcast was gushing about the top photo feature.
Gruber normally covers Apple stuff.
OK, now here's something that is going to tempt me seeing as I do a LOT of low light photography
Google's 'Night Sight' Mode Is Downright Amazing « Android :: Gadget Hacks
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More: Google Pixel's new Night Sight mode in Google Camera app is incredible
if a review could purr, this one would
Google Pixel 3 XL review: big is still beautiful
Awesome. Even my f1.4 SLR lens couldn’t do that.
With the Pixel 3, Google are killing it on computational photography. Which is where it’s all going now.
The other phone companies have been leapfrogged, and the traditional camera companies are looking like relics - in terms of this new way of processing.
Yep. Could you imagine this tech inside a proper dSLR?
I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself there. Computational photography has its place but it's no substitute for the same thing done right without it, at least where feasible. You can usually build up a better version of the truth by taking in more data and averaging it, but you can have all the data you like and if it's bad data you get a bad average and a bad result. Better to have good data from a single capture. Plus once you start taking in data beyond a single exposure you open yourself up to all kinds of artefacts and errors; most panoramas I've taken with a phone have something wrong with them, and no it's not technique.
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