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An aerial should be a quarter of the total wavelength to be effective. One should also earth the tx.
mememeandme said:Legal stations are told what they can play and say, and quite oftern who can play on their station, they are told what power they can transmit to, what music they can play during what times of day and so on. And if you say something which ofcom would rather you didn't say, exspect a nice fine or a licence removal.
Giles said:I can understand there being regulations on bad language, and on transmission power, but do Ofcom really tell you what kind of music to play? Down to what level of detail? What is the justification for this?
Is it based on the idea that (legally) there can only be a few stations, and they want to ensure a "choice"?
In a few years, everyone will be DAB, then there will be room for lots more stations without the interference issue, won't there?
Giles..
mrtambourineman said:Try doubling that, to .4 at least. Which is why there is very little room left on the FM band in London.

The frequencies are a natural resource that belong to everyone in the country. There's a limited amount of them and the government is the best entity to co-ordinate who uses them and to tax commercial users of it, imo.mememeandme said:not paying the Government for something which actually isn't theres, how can they own the air and the magnetic field?.. anyway
If you look at the lists of stations and repetoires (sp), then it's clear that pirate radio is an activity for i) kids and ii) people that like music that goes "tsssstsstsssstssststssstssstsss"*. So when you say it's the only stations worth listening to, you mean for you to listen to, which is also why people get so fucked off when they can't get to their Radio 4 or whatever. (BTW, I know you are not saying the opposite of this).WWWeed said:Pirate Radio? I'm behind it all the way, The pirates seem to be ONLY stations worth listing too.
Tangent: I'm speculating but things like that might be interesting in 3+ years when WiMax (city-wide broadband) or 3G takes off + becomes cheap and you could get portable internet radios. Unlimited frequencies!jæd said:What about internet radio...?
mememeandme said:You can listen to Jazz, country etc on legal stations.

mememeandme said:You can listen to Jazz, country etc on legal stations.
Giles said:I can understand there being regulations on bad language, and on transmission power, but do Ofcom really tell you what kind of music to play? Down to what level of detail? What is the justification for this?
Is it based on the idea that (legally) there can only be a few stations, and they want to ensure a "choice"?
In a few years, everyone will be DAB, then there will be room for lots more stations without the interference issue, won't there?
Giles..
Ofcom said:Character of Service
Xfm will be targeted at 15-34 year old London listeners, providing a specialist music format of "alternative rock", best defined as modern rock with attitude, featuring artists generally outside the mainstream.
Detail
Tracks and artists featured will generally be groundbreaking “alternative” artists, innovative, youthful, generally guitar-led. Output will not be expected to have much overlap with other, more mainstream stations, or become chart-hit oriented (whether past or present charts).
Up to 50% of the output will be current popular alternatives (from the last two months), with the rest of programming made up of breakthrough tracks from the previous fortnight, classic alternatives and “roots” tracks which played a part in alternative evolution. None of those categories should exceed 30% of the output.
Daily programming will contain whats-on information, news about bands, a full weekly alternative rock review programme, and at at least three weekly “live” sessions (each at least 15 minutes) commissioned for Xfm. At least four bulletins a day weekdays and three weekends should contain relevant local/regional news tailored to the tastes of the target audience. National news will feature at other times.Sport is seen as a key interest to the target audience and a music/sport mix on Saturdays may be aired.
mememeandme said:Jazz Fm is 0.2mhz away from the frequency I transmit on, everyday I hear loads of Jazz being played on their station. Because of the high pitched sound of the Jazz music, it always cuts into my station, thats how I notice it, then I flick to 102.2, and they are playing Jazz..
chio said:Quick question for you.
A legal community station pays thousands of pounds of licence fees, goes through endless government bureaucracy and waits years to be awarded a licence. They spend money on a decent Ofcom-approved transmitter from a reputable firm and find a proper site to put it on, paying site fees. They pay extortionate PPL and MCPS/PRS copyright fees.
A pirate sticks a transmitter on a tower block and sends out a signal with scant consideration for others. Why should they have the right to?
(edit: The same goes for commercial stations - they're legitimate companies who have a right to go about their business without interference from illegal transmitters.)
Louloubelle said:they should have the right to because
a) people who pay thousands for license fees and attend endless beaurocratic meetings tend to be (IME) a self selecting group, not representative of the broader community (not true of all community stations but certianly true of my local station)
b) because the chummy bunches of old boys and friends who get together to run community stations (again IME) have their own cherished political views that do not reflect the views of the disempowered communities who really need and are entiled to a voice and a platform to express their views
c) cos pirates play music from the streets not just a select playlist of affluent american artists
chio said:You've had a bad experience with one community station, presumably a temporary RSL - since no permanent ones have even been licensed in London yet, let alone made it to air (except Resonance FM which was part of a pilot scheme). That's an issue with one particular bunch of people, not the system as a whole. I've been involved with a number of community and commercial stations, and while there are more egos per capita than other areas, it's not the unbearable hell-hole you describe!
chio said:As far as point c) goes, I'm not sure where you got the idea that the current crop of inner-city community stations play "a select playlist of affluent American artists". Take a look at New Style, an Afro-Caribbean station in Birmingham, or ALL FM, serving the diverse communities of inner-city South Manchester with one of the most eclectic selections of music around with involvement from a wide range of groups across the community.
mememeandme said:Regarding community radio: There is community radio, who is it run by? not the kids, not the community, its owned by officals, the goverment, they tell you what you can play and say. They give you a small powerd 30watt transmitter, just powerful enough of transmitting to your local estate!.
The idea will never kick off. We create stations to cover the whole of London, my station covers London, Essexs, and parts of Surrey and Kent. Not a local estate!.
mememeandme said:Jazz Fm is 0.2mhz away from the frequency I transmit on, everyday I hear loads of Jazz being played on their station. Because of the high pitched sound of the Jazz music, it always cuts into my station, thats how I notice it, then I flick to 102.2, and they are playing Jazz..

mememeandme said:Pirate radio, supplys the style of music which are not avaiable else where. You can listen to Jazz, country etc on legal stations.
mrtambourineman said:You broadcast 0.2 mhz away from a legal and wonder why you get complaints![]()
mememeandme said:And you are trying to talk asif you know what your talking about, if you had any knoledge in how radio works you would understand Jazz Aka Smooth FM broadcasting using thousands of watts, we transmit using 150/300watts, they transmit from Crystal Palace, We transmit from a 20floor tower block.