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Pirate Radio

I'm not a Pirate listener, and they do interefere with Radio 4 :mad: BUT I rather like them in principle. A guy parked his van outside my flat one Sunday morning recently and was broadcasting for a few hours. I really enjoy these unexpected aspects of living in such a dvierse community™ And I don't mind listening to The Archers on headphones for a bit :)
 
LK ONE said:
Who said that serious buisnessmen make money out of it?
how is this? you can't make money out of pirate radio...


well lots of stations have adverts so maybe that brings in some revenue - not sure itd be enough to cover costs though!
 
LK ONE said:
You seem to forget pirate radio was started by teenagers in the 60's using boats (there was no broadcasting laws in the sea at the time.hence the name lol) because the radio wouldn't play popular music at the time (The Who,Led Zeppelin etc. etc.). Anything born out of such love for music
will never die.

Drivel - those ships were run as hard-nosed businesses, openly taking money from the record companies for lucrative airplay. The only "teenagers" involved were the ones listening under the bed-sheets after dark!
 
chio said:
Drivel - those ships were run as hard-nosed businesses, openly taking money from the record companies for lucrative airplay. The only "teenagers" involved were the ones listening under the bed-sheets after dark!


Not entirely sure about the hard-nosed part. Ronan O'Rahilly was the guy behind Radio Caroline, theres an interview here

I was a teenager listening under the bed-sheets after dark, and I met my wife on a Pirate Radio protest march in June 1969, a couple of years after the act banning the pirate stations was passed.
 
At the time it felt like a combination of the music and the protest element. I remember stories of DJs suffering lack of supplies and shit weather continuing to broadcast.

When Caroline went off the air in '68 it was due to rather large debts, so I don't think anyone made much money, if any.
 
LK ONE said:
Who said that serious buisnessmen make money out of it?
how is this? you can't make money out of pirate radio...

It was me who said this, just speaking from experience, ive been DJing on itch fm for 4 years now,the guys who run it are a pair of very hardcore businessmen, hardly into the music at all, they make PLENTY of money from the advertising revenue and various other things they do...
 
Fucking LOADS of money to be made from pirate radio.

Trouble is, you need at least 3 operating transmitters ready to switch into your uplink if one gets busted, plus there's loads of organised crime type rivalry, sabotage and violence is rife - it's not like back in the day ('89-'91) and in my opinion Flex FM fucked it up for everyone with their blatant thieving and cuntishness...

Me and Stevo counted 32 separate pirate stations driving through London last month - and that was just scanning in a car with a shitty aerial!
 
chio said:
Maybe a bit harsh there, but I certainly don't think they were done for the love of music!


I think you possibly had to be there. The _only_ music on the radio was on the BBC Light Programme, where the likes of David Jacobs really didn't cater for our side of the generation gap (a phrase you don't hear very often any more).

Plus Radio Luxemburg, to be fair, which was there and which did play stuff aimed at the likes of me, but which somehow never really gripped the imagination.

The pirates were alive, and like hippogriff says, they had the music but they also made the demand for provision for us. It was protest, it was sticking two fingers up at authority, firmly from the perspective of those who resented the straightjacket conformity rule of the men in grey suits.

Sure it's dead easy to look at this with 2005 eyes and attribute all the motivation to cynical greed for airplay money and a battle for market share. But that isn't seeing the story from the perspective of mid-sixties pent-up demand for individual expression. The pirates opened up a window, and it's not coincidental that this happpened at a time when young men were shocking the nation by not wearing a tie and -shock, horror- growing their hair over their ears. Today we'd look at that as a fashion statement cynically manipulated by the hairdressing industry to reinvigorate falling revenues...

That was a simpler age, which doesn't mean the pirates weren't businesses.



So I made a crystal set and listened to Radio London under the bedclothes- which is what it had to be because the parents believed the stuff about the pirates brainwashing the young. And when the men in grey suits realised by how much they'd lost the plot, they fought back by inventing Radio 1 and playlists and so on.





And while I'm here, and since no-one has mentioned them, an honourable mention for Radio Jackie, who flew the pirate flag for lots of years through the 70s & 80s and also for the wonderful DBC (Dread Broadcasting Corp) who brought raggae and roots (and popularised the concept of the phenomenally stoned DJ) to prominence at a time when Aunty Radio 1 was completely ignoring anything outside the mainstream.



I've just found a show list for the Light Programme here, which gives a flavour. That was it, all of it, nothing else.
 
Anyone know any pirate radio stations in Liverpool? Weed FM is no more, I think. Tried scanning the airwaves but the tuner on my stereo is shit, digital scanning - got a mind of its own
 
comstock said:
No mention of Radio Jackie on the history page! A massive omission!

http://www.y2kpirates.co.uk/history.php
erm....
Pirate radio gets its romantic name not just from its flagrant flouting of government restrictions on the airwaves, but from its early days in the sixties, when unlicensed stations broadcast from ships anchored at sea just outside British territorial waters, or from derelict Army & Navy forts on the Thames estuary.

By 1966, Radio London claimed over eight million listeners, and Radio Caroline over six million, pirate DJ's were cult stars and stations had their own fan clubs. But this first golden age of pirate radio came to an abrupt end when Harold Wilson's Labour government instituted the Marine Broadcasting offences act in August 1967, making it unlawful to operate, finance or aid in any way an unlicensed station.

as for weed fm, not shure mate Have a look at the Y2k fourms as the bloke who runs it posts there
 
newbie said:

But it got closed down in 1985, applied for the SW London licence in 1997 which went to Thames Radio. Thames went bust and the team behind Jackie bought it for £1, relaunching it as Jackie last year.

:)
 
lol my dad used to take food and supplies out to radio caroline when it first started!! was funny that he used to do it at night in his lil boat... bless eh!! lol
 
I used to love hyper fm.

Anyone seen the programme on the community channel? pirate radio bloke gets in official trouble (repeatedly). The end was a headfuck.
 
chio said:
But it got closed down in 1985, applied for the SW London licence in 1997 which went to Thames Radio. Thames went bust and the team behind Jackie bought it for £1, relaunching it as Jackie last year.

:)

And it's shit.

Radio Jackie in the early eighties was pretty much a dedicated jazz funk station, and as such it was brilliant, when you consider the only alternative station playing decent jazz funk were the Greg Edwards radio shows on Capital.

Nowadays it's just a load of commercial bollocks - with loads of commercials.

Maybe I'm just getting old... ;)
 
DJWrongspeed said:
http://www.Y2kpirates.com

it's all here including that amazing BBC documentary about the pirate in Southend,

Is that the one about that utter cock - "I will kill - EVERYBODY!!" - who couldn't promote a rave if his life depended on it?

That was some funny shit.
 
are there any largely speech based pirates?

or call-in talk shows (ie not just music requests and shout-outs) in their schedules at all?


never heard any myself - has anyone else?
 
Piers Gibbon said:
are there any largely speech based pirates?

or call-in talk shows (ie not just music requests and shout-outs) in their schedules at all?


never heard any myself - has anyone else?

Dimension FM in Telford used to run a phone-in on a Sunday, but it was pretty inane stuff, people phoning up to rant about Big Brother or tell jokes.
 
thanks Chio

yeah I have been asking around about pirate speech radio and it rings no bells with anyone

I guess that means we feel satisfied by whats on offer from the commercial sector and the bbc?... interesting
 
Or that the pirates just don't want to or can't produce that sort of programming. It obviously takes an awful lot more in the way of presentation skills to produce an hour of talk output than an hour of tunes with shoutouts in between. Dimension were raided and called it a day a few years ago, but they've still got a programme archive online. A look through it shows phone-in topics such as "Chicks With Dicks" and "Pizza Wind-Up" - so hardly the most riveting speech.
 
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