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Pillock of the week: dad takes 14 year old son on 122mph bike ride

Thora said:
Putting two small children, on their own, not strapped in, in the back of a pickup and driving along a highway? Take risks with your own life if you want, but not with those of children who have no say in the matter.
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I can see this viewpoint as well.
 
Thora said:
Putting two small children, on their own, not strapped in, in the back of a pickup and driving along a highway? Take risks with your own life if you want, but not with those of children who have no say in the matter.
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Fair point but I bet, if you asked this particular newsworthy kid if he wanted to go 122mph on dad's bike, he'd be well up for it :D
 
Some very predictable knee-jerk reactions here from the ignorant.

FFS Ed, your "massively growing list of fatalities" is bullshit. Go and write a novel if you want to churn out fiction. Or if you want to learn anything, you could try asking me a sensible question. I might just know something about motorcycles having ridden them for the last 30 years. Why use your forum for parading your ignorance when you could be exchanging useful and interesting information?
 
fela fan said:
I'm also used to seeing two, three, four, even more people on motorbikes going about their daily business. Whole families too.
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I'm sure you do. Practices like this are what contribute towards Thailand's high injury and fatality rate on the roads. from 1992 to 2002 (most recent reliable stats I could find quickly - Thai Police), deaths varied from 14 to 21 per 10,000 population.

In comparison, the UK had a deaths per 100k of 5.4/100k in 2006
 
nick h. said:
Why use your forum for parading your ignorance when you could be exchanging useful and interesting information?
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OK. I've some questions for you. Why do you think it's OK for you to ride your superbike at such incredibly fast speeds, and do you think that your actions cause no increased risk to anyone else?
 
fela fan said:
No, it's just that i'm used to seeing several people in the back of pick-ups, children, adults, and seeing this sight frequently. Security vs freedom. Individual choice vs state interference. Take your pick. I know which i choose..
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I choose not to be struck by motorbikes making a fucking annoying racket and recklessly speeding at high speed when I'm taking a walk along a narrow country road. How about you?
 
editor said:
I choose not to be struck by motorbikes making a fucking annoying racket and recklessly speeding at high speed when I'm taking a walk along a narrow country road. How about you?
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That aint no narrow country road you would be taking a walk along through choice dude! :D
 
nick h. said:
Some very predictable knee-jerk reactions here from the ignorant.

FFS Ed, your "massively growing list of fatalities" is bullshit. Go and write a novel if you want to churn out fiction. Or if you want to learn anything, you could try asking me a sensible question. I might just know something about motorcycles having ridden them for the last 30 years. Why use your forum for parading your ignorance when you could be exchanging useful and interesting information?
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30 years experience still doesn't stop you thinking that 122mph in a 60 zone and putting others at risk is ok though does it.
 
The memory of doing a ton on the pillion of a 650cc BSA Bonneville, with no helmet (not illegal then) at 17 years of age will stay with me for ever, as I'm sure this adventure will for the young lad.

Locking his dad up for it serves no useful purpose whatsover, apart from making the knee jerks feel good about themselves. :rolleyes:
 
MC5 said:
The memory of doing a ton on the pillion of a 650cc BSA Bonneville, with no helmet (not illegal then) at 17 years of age will stay with me for ever, as I'm sure this adventure will for the young lad.

Locking his dad up for it serves no useful purpose whatsover, apart from making the knee jerks feel good about themselves. :rolleyes:
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OK

forget about the fact he had a kid on the back for a minute

do you think it's acceptable to drive at 122mph on a public road with a 60mph limit, in the wet risking the lives of other motorists?
 
internetstalker said:
OK

forget about the fact he had a kid on the back for a minute

do you think it's acceptable to drive at 122mph on a public road with a 60mph limit, in the wet risking the lives of other motorists?
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I don't think that it's unacceptable to a degree that warrants a 6 month custodial. Particularly when you consider the type of non-motorcycle based offence you have to commit to get 6 months inside.
 
MC5 said:
The memory of doing a ton on the pillion of a 650cc BSA Bonneville, with no helmet (not illegal then) at 17 years of age will stay with me for ever, as I'm sure this adventure will for the young lad.

Locking his dad up for it serves no useful purpose whatsover, apart from making the knee jerks feel good about themselves. :rolleyes:
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Why is it a knee jerk reaction to feel that it is wrong to drive at 122mph on a public road in the rain thus putting other people, including a close relative, at risk?
 
internetstalker said:
thats a different argument all together and doesn't answer my question
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OK, then it's acceptable to me because I couldn't give a fuck how fast anyone else drives. It's obviously unacceptable to society because it's an offence punishable by 6 months.

Do you think 6 months is acceptable when nobody was hurt, there was no accident?
 
It strikes me as a bit of a storm in a teacup. Involving the favourites topics to express outrage over.
Speeding :eek: Oh no's
and involving a child :eek: double bubble!
With bikes like that you can go from 60 to 122 back to 60 in less than ten seconds.
 
editor said:
Sorry, I don't know what that means.
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It seems to me that you've just looked at this story first hand, overeacted, then you've posted it here for some reason? Then other people appear venting their spleens over this, so I assume there must be some gratification/pleasure in carrying out such an exercise? :D

Wouldn't this fit more in the transport forum, specifically motorcyles? ;)
 
This is on a bikers forum where they are discussing why pillion riders sem to come off worst in accidents:

...it's a real shame that many more riders don't treat their pillions with the respect that they deserve, and ride in a manner less likely to cause death or injury through their own stupidity of wanting to show off and impress!​

And this is a link to a report on the danger that motorcyclists represent to other vunerable road users (note the particular reference made to the part played by excessive speed): http://www.brake.org.uk/index.php?p=920.

122mph with your kid on the back isn't big or clever.

Louis MacNeice
 
DownwardDog said:
OK, then it's acceptable to me because I couldn't give a fuck how fast anyone else drives. It's obviously unacceptable to society because it's an offence punishable by 6 months.
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I doubt you'd feel like that if a member of your family killed in a RTA due to some idiot driving at twice the speed limit


DownwardDog said:
Do you think 6 months is acceptable when nobody was hurt, there was no accident?
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the argument that no one was hurt doesn't stand up.

thats like me shooting a gun at someone, missing and saying 'well no one was hurt'

but to answer your question, I think it is acceptable for someone driving 122mph in the wet on a 60mph road to get 6 months. he'll be out in 3 I don't think thats an exessive prison sentance
 
MC5 said:
It seems to me that you've just looked at this story first hand, overeacted, then you've posted it here for some reason? Then other people appear venting their spleens over this, so I assume there must be some gratification/pleasure in carrying out such an exercise? :D

Wouldn't this fit more in the transport forum, specifically motorcyles? ;)
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I don't think anyone has over-reacted

Now you might argue that the sentence the man was given was steep but it seems pretty clear that he was driving dangerously and putting his son at risk
 
internetstalker said:
the argument that no one was hurt doesn't stand up.

thats like me shooting a gun at someone, missing and saying 'well no one was hurt'
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But you would be treated differently by the law depending on whether you hit or missed. Attempted murder vs. manslaughter/proper murder - so it is germane to the matter at hand in the eyes of the law. If he'd come off and killed someone or his son had to spend the rest of his life operating his Nintendo DS via a wire coathanger wrapped round his head then Hayabusa Dad would have got a lot more than 6 months.
 
gentlegreen said:
Sounds seriously close to jumping out of a hotel window with your kids.
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Not that close.

Jump out of a window, you die or are seriously hurt.

Ride a motorbike really fast, there is a slight possibility that you will fall off and die or get seriously hurt.

I don't think putting this bloke in prison serves a useful purpose.

Giles..
 
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