Dillinger4
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This thread disappoints me on so many levels.
Phantom Menace
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No, by throwing Palpatine off the bridge thingy.
The whole thing is the Tradegy of Darth Vader, so I always looked at it that way...
arguable
the force was only brought into balance once the jedi were wiped out
them controlling the galaxy brought about destruction and chaos
the sith didn't really do much except try to break the jedis' grip on power
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Frankly, the number of plot holes in Phantom Menace makes the number of plot holes in A New Hope look normal.
Like -- what the FUCK was a Jedi doing sending a kid into a race that was basically custom built for a Jedi? Qui Gon could have manipulated that entire thing to get any result he liked, if he saw fit.
Like -- what the FUCK was a Jedi doing sending a kid into a race that was basically custom built for a Jedi? Qui Gon could have manipulated that entire thing to get any result he liked, if he saw fit.
internetstalker
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He also left a son and daughter with which to start again and train more jedis
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
No, this is not canon. You can look at it that way if you wish but it is not the way that the story was intended to be told. "Bringing the force into balance" refers soley and purely to the removal of the burgeoning dark side represented by the Sith. It would be pretty stupid if the Jedi were seeking a chosen one to create balance by almost wiping out the light side.
The existence of the Sith and their rise to power is what threw the Force out of balance, affecting other sensitives abilities.
Plus, the dissolution of the Senate and the replacement of the Republic with the iron fist and rule by fear of the Empire...
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
Yes, I agree with you and Iam. It is the story of Anakin Skywalker and he was the one to bring balance to the Force. That is the most obvious way of looking at it.
I was just, y'know, throwing another way of looking at it out there. Because it's Luke that goes into the heart of the darkness and convinces part of it to turn back and kill the other part of it. Without Luke, the darkness would have reigned supreme.
But there'd been peace and justice in the galaxy for a thousand generations with things in balance, before the dark times. That's what the Jedi - in conjunction with the Senate - tried to acheive. The mistakes they made were because their link to the Force was clouded by the Dark Side.
And waste ammo on an assumed malfunctioning escape pod. no lifeforms aboard...
So the argument goes.
Don't know about PM. Think I was pissed when I saw it.
internetstalker
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Yeah, also true.
If only he'd have performed a sabre kill, instead of leaving Anakin to the fire...
internetstalker
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or R2-D2
kained&able
Here for the football.
leave r2 alone he is a god amungst machines.
dave
dave
The Jedi were shit.
How they couldn't sense a huge consiprosy right in front of their noses is beyond me.
Also, taking small children from their parents and filling their heads with silly doctorine is a bit fucked up imo.
The Sith are much more honest. What you see is what you get.
How they couldn't sense a huge consiprosy right in front of their noses is beyond me.
Also, taking small children from their parents and filling their heads with silly doctorine is a bit fucked up imo.
The Sith are much more honest. What you see is what you get.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
Why didn't he have a chance? He should have written to Padme and asked her to lend him the cash to return the favor of saving her arse. She was a princess, she should have offered to buy his mum back anyway.
internetstalker
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thats my point
but surely to have balance in the force you would need both jedi and sith
the jedi took him away when he was about 8 and brainwashed him
i bet he asked to see his mum but he wasn't allowed
internetstalker
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but she got married!
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
That no excuse to chop up the younglings though is it.
ATOMIC SUPLEX
Member Since: 1985 Post Count: 3
I don't see your point.
i didn't even like him when he was trying to be good
but it's the jedis fault he ended up such a wrongun, he probably would have been better off as a slave on tatooine
kabbes
First intersubjective, then internalised
No, this is a common misunderstanding of the intentions of the writer. Balance does NOT mean both good and evil. That is a Dungeons and Dragons notion. In the Star Wars universe, Balance can only exist in the ABSENCE of evil.
