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killer b said:
what are you on about? orang utan likes phil collins - i was suggesting that if he likes phil collins he'll probably like gabriel, which is the purpose of this thread, no?
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Once again, the more you keep on insisting they're alike, the more you show how little you know about Peter Gabriel's work.

Does this sound like Phil fucking Collins?
It was one of the first commercial albums recorded entirely to digital tape (using a Sony mobile truck), and featured the early, extremely expensive Fairlight CMI sampling computer.

Gabriel combined a variety of sampled and deconstructed sounds with world-beat percussion and other unusual instrumentation to create a radically new, emotionally charged soundscape.

Furthermore, the sleeve art consisted of inscrutable, video-based imagery. Despite the album's peculiar sound, odd appearance, and often disturbing themes, it sold well and had a hit single in "Shock the Monkey", which also became a groundbreaking music video.
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Read and learn:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Gabriel
 
editor said:
Once again, the more you keep on insisting they're alike, the more you show how little you know about Peter Gabriel's work.

Does this sound like Phil fucking Collins?
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'keep insisting'? i'm just defending an off-the-cuff post against a bizarrely disproportionate reaction. :confused:

i honestly don't give a fuck how peter gabriel makes his music, and i'm sure plenty of it sounds nowt like phil collins. but some of it does. imo, of course.
:)
 
Pete is miles above Phil, very much so indeed.

I think my girlfriend might indicate a bordering obsession, but she's allowed to say such things.
 
great live version of Here Comes the Flood .

I don't like all he has done, but I like the man and respect and appreciate his musical talent.....and some of his stuff is ace.

:)
 
cesare said:
Phil Collins is nothing like Peter Gabriel. <---- You see that? That's a full stop.
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Although they have both been hugely influencial on each other. I've often wondered who came up with the idea of that huge gated drum sound that Collins used on Gabriel's 3rd album. Whoever it was, it became Collin's signature sound, and a staple of '80s rock recordings.

Interesting little snippet on the Phil Collins forum:

As for Phil's "Ashcombe Works", back from Canada, Gail Coulson asked him to go play for Peter. Gail was associated with Tony Smith, but he gave her the Gabriel count. Peter was trying to make Ashcombe a place to work while the lease was still in vigour. Peter was broke as usual those days, Ashcombe was flooded, he had no money to pay Jerry Marotta for his sessions, so Phil -with some spare time at home, went there and played for Peter. When Phil got there, Peter himself was trying to get Ashcombe dried up along with David Rhodes. They were shoveling the earth to make the water inside drain to the outside.

Phil was looking forward to develop a rhythm pattern for a Pete's song that would be called "Margarita" when they started playing with the gate Compressor Unit, and the 'Intruder' sound sprang up, as far as I know.
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editor said:
Be sure to notify all the Peter Gabriel fans that they do, in fact, love the bland pap peddled by Collins.
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He's played drums for a lot of people that Gabriel fans would be into: Brian Eno, Steve Hackett, John Cale, Robert Fripp, Mike Oldfield, John Martyn, Robert Plant and, er, Adam Ant.
 
rhod said:
Although they have both been hugely influencial on each other. I've often wondered who came up with the idea of that huge gated drum sound that Collins used on Gabriel's 3rd album. Whoever it was, it became Collin's signature sound, and a staple of '80s rock recordings.
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Hugh Padgham is the answer to your question - the "Gated Drum Sound".

Steve Lillywhite was producing both Gabriel and XTC in 1979/80 with Padgham engineering the sessions. Contrary to what the Wikipedia says, I'm fairly sure they used it on XTC's Drums and Wires first, which was released in '79.

Collins played drums on Gabriel's third solo album and brought Padgham in to engineer Face Value after he heard what he was doing with his drum sound.

e2a: it was certainly a running joke among my mates in the early 80s that XTC had been inadvertently responsible for Phil Collins solo career :)
 
Some friends of mine gave me their spare copy of a best of.....compilation. I liked him around the late 70s & had forgotten how good he was. But, but.....



......to my huge disappointment, it didn't have 'No Self-Control' which IMVHO is his best song. :( The intro to that is just amazing.
 
Collins early solo stuff was really quite good (Face Value), marked by the fact it's also relatively unknown and a bit different to what most people expect. Some of the Genesis stuff after Gabriel left was also good (Duke) and then it went downhill, although they did still have moments of brilliance that sadly got lost amongst the rubbish.
 
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