untethered
For industry & decency
True. Be prepared!
Peter Davies - English Democrat Mayor of Doncaster
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True. Be prepared!
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
lol, it shows they are a bunch of knobs who didnt know what they are running for. And who didnt thnk they had a chance in hell of getting to wherever it was.
untethered
For industry & decency
I don't see any evidence that the ED is a "white" party or has the aims you attribute to it.
But if you could post a well-sourced quotation I'd be happy to reconsider the matter.
The devil, as always, is in the details. If such services are helping people to integrate so that they can get to the point where they no longer need translation and similar services then they are probably defensible. If all they're doing is subsidising people that have no intention of making an effort to integrate then I'd say not.
I question your reference to "minority groups" in this context. Many people from ethnic minorities are quite capable of speaking English and organising their own affairs without taxpayer-funded "diversity initiatives" to supposedly assist them. How many non-white people do you know that can't speak reasonable English?
untethered
For industry & decency
For the sake of the people of Doncaster, let's hope Mr Davies rises to the challenge.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
I'll field this one, if I may.
A few years ago I worked for the Refugee Council, and helped them close down their Training and Development Unit. They had lost the funding, it was politically unpopular to be spending as much money on educating refugees. The education was english classes, computer skills, that sort of thing. It enabled newcomers to receive free education to enable themselves to get jobs and integrate. Now newcomers can't access many of these sort of things, and English classes cost money. So they need to get work in order to earn their money. But no-one will employ a non-english speaker. So they go to their fellow language communities for work, which is often low paid (as the bosses know these people are desperate) and sometimes in the black economy. And many get trapped there. So we end up with ghettoised commuities, without formal education. In order to allow these people access to public services we need translation services. In order to break up the ghettoisation of communities we need to show them that we're not scared of them, that we want them to integrate. Telling people that we expect them to integrate but we're not willing to acknowledge their existence, employ them, allow them access to services etc.... cunt's game.
All my non-white friends speak good english, whether they are native born or have moved here. But they're not the ones that need translation services etc. I'm probably the sort of person who would be sacked by this shitwit, although not a diversity worker part of my job is trying to ensure that people from all backgrounds have access to council services, welfare, housing and job rights. You have no idea about these peoples lives or the problems they face. So really, go away and perhaps do some volunteer work with immigrant communities, outreach, refugees etc and then come back and we can have a sensible conversation about the problems of integration. I know you're not a racist or a bigot, but you, like the EDs, are setting out a stall that will further isolate communities and play into the hands of the BNP further, as the Labour Party have been doing since at least 2001.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
Also, it's fucking hard to tell the difference between a person who has no intention of trying to integrate and a person who needs help doing so. If there are less places offering free english classes than there are people who want them you can't find out by offering people places that aren't there.... oooh clunky but you know what I mean.
Gavin Bl
terrible awful baaad
could we have a campaign to reclaim warm beer and village greens, cos I quite like those
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
could we have a campaign to reclaim warm beer and village greens, cos I quite like those
a rather odd bit of reclamation from wartime 1944 for you. Bucolic English countryside children performing traditional rural rites. Look out for the little girl being crowned Queen of the May, wonderful subversion of stereotypes.
Give it a bit of time it all seems fairly predictable until about four and a bit minutes in
'we are the english' have been involved with organising events with the english democrats in the past and the english democrats plug them as a recommended site on their links page, one of only about 14 such sites and most of the links they have are out of date
the bloke who runs 'we are the english' also runs the steadfast registered charity, who boast of being the only charity which represents anglo saxon white english people, they seem very careful with language and presumably have to be given their charitable status, as to what they actually do, well that remains unclear
'we are the english' however link the the bnp on their links page with a joke ;well blow me down' or such like
they also link to known nazi, mark cotterils group england first and the aforementioned wodens folk
wodens folk may seem harmless enough, 8im sure the thule society in 1920s germany seemed harmless enough, but given the rise in mainstream fascism, nasty little neo-nazi groups like this, however naive and bonkers their agenda, need keeping an eye on imo
as a digression, particularly because of wodens folks attempts at establishing radical ecology ideals and attempting to engratiate themselves with the new age, mad hippy bastard movement, they are in particlar worth keeping an eye on - and they seem to have some links to troy southgate, a self proclaimed national anarchist, former fash, who has already been busted as attempting to infiltrate green and animal rights groups
where ED come into this, well its all a bit hazy how strong links are, they certainly seem to have reasonably strong links to 'we are the english' who in turn seem to have reasonably strong links to wodens folk
in which case they are indeed fellow travellers, happy to be part of a political movement which accepts nazism within its ranks
Many people who have who have actually had the misfortune to meet the individual who is the New Mayor of Doncaster could tell you that on first impressions alone (and this is his public persona, so goodness knows what he is like in private!) he comes across as an arrogant, boorish, bigotted, chauvinist, saloon-bar-ranting, middle class-choleric-chippy git. 
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
First off, don't point out people's typos. It just makes you look like a nob, and it is rude didn't you know.
Second, define English culture, please, and tell us why your definition is more valid than someone else's.
Third, you're either being hopelessly naive or disingenuous. When a council talks about 'public culture', they mean those cultural activities that they fund or licence. This is the exact-same policy of NF councils in France, which refuse funding to cultural activities that they do not consider to be French.
_angel_
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Many people who have who have actually had the misfortune to meet the individual who is the New Mayor of Doncaster could tell you that on first impressions alone (and this is his public persona, so goodness knows what he is like in private!) he comes across as an arrogant, boorish, bigotted, chauvinist, saloon-bar-ranting, middle class-choleric-chippy git.
Completely aside from any politics, he seemed like a very officious little man. Kind of like a Coronation Street character.
Monday was Doncaster’s brand-spanking-new Mayor’s first day on the job, and his first engagement of the day was an interview with BBC Radio Sheffield’s Toby Foster. We hope Mayor Davies didn’t think he was in for an easy ride for his first official interview, because that’s not what he got.
We have just read the transcript of Peter Davies interview with BBC Radio Sheffield’s Toby Foster. Which you can read here @ The Welcome To The North blog. It could be described as ineptly hilarious, and probably will be by non-Doncaster residents, but the next 4 years of Davies’ mayoralty will heap more shame on Doncaster council and will be an even bigger disaster, for us who live here, than the whole of Winter’s three terms of office put together. Davies’ answers to the interviewer’s questions on his main electoral pledges can be summarised by this response, I dunno… again, I’ve got to find this out.
The new mayor made election pledges that he cannot fulfill. You may say that all politicians do , but his reasons are novel;
1. He didn’t check on the legality of any of his promises. Many are illegal and therefore impossible.
2. He didn’t think he could possibly be elected. His major concern at the count was saving his deposit.
So if you voted for him on the basis of his manifesto promises, I’m afraid you were not only stupid, but duped by a bloke who has no idea.
We have just read the transcript of Peter Davies interview with BBC Radio Sheffield’s Toby Foster. Which you can read here @ The Welcome To The North blog. It could be described as ineptly hilarious, and probably will be by non-Doncaster residents, but the next 4 years of Davies’ mayoralty will heap more shame on Doncaster council and will be an even bigger disaster, for us who live here, than the whole of Winter’s three terms of office put together. Davies’ answers to the interviewer’s questions on his main electoral pledges can be summarised by this response, I dunno… again, I’ve got to find this out.
The new mayor made election pledges that he cannot fulfill. You may say that all politicians do , but his reasons are novel;
1. He didn’t check on the legality of any of his promises. Many are illegal and therefore impossible.
2. He didn’t think he could possibly be elected. His major concern at the count was saving his deposit.
So if you voted for him on the basis of his manifesto promises, I’m afraid you were not only stupid, but duped by a bloke who has no idea.
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Shit, I just read the transcript of that interview. The first commentator on the blog is right: "It reads like a skit from John Bird and John Fortune on Bremner Bird and Fortune."
King Biscuit Time
Well-Known Member
Is this thread caught in a time loop?
King Biscuit Time
Well-Known Member
Oh, he's elected alright.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
dennisr
the acceptable face
Gingerman
Is a great bunch of lads.....
http://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/free/Mayor-in-Gay-Pride-funding.5362346.jp
So much for his ludicrous stand agin "Peeeeecccccc"
So much for his ludicrous stand agin "Peeeeecccccc"
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
first u-turn from Davies - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8097830.stm
Not that he had much choice really, as the previous Mayor had signed off on the plans the day before being defeated
Not that he had much choice really, as the previous Mayor had signed off on the plans the day before being defeated
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Good. Maybe the twat can celebrate his Fail with a foaming tankard of nut brown ale. 
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
I'm looking forward to him mercilessly uprooting "these people who are, sort of, controlling thought processes and this sort of thing". Paul McKenna beware!
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Maybe we should send the Mayor a tin foil hat, explaining how the wearing of it can help prevent the 'controlling (of) thought processes and this sort of thing'?
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