cyberfairy
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fishfingerer said:
ooh, that was beautiful
I'm a supermodel and think i'm in love with your edgy charm...got any ketamine?
Pete Doherty: the artist
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ooh, that was beautiful
I'm a supermodel and think i'm in love with your edgy charm...got any ketamine?bouncer_the_dog
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I find PD pretentious and annoying. He talks a load of made up rubbish about albion. He sets a bad example to his fans (who he treats with contempt) by glamourising smack. And he's totally unproffesional. No wonder the tabloids love him. I can't see why anyone would want to be a pete doherty fan.
check this interview - it's very good : )
http://www.repeatfanzine.co.uk/interviews/pete Doherty.htm
http://www.repeatfanzine.co.uk/interviews/pete Doherty.htm
cyberfairy
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he can't even stand up! scratch him, i'de just get hep b...Cheesypoof said:
cyberfairy said:
heheh.
He is a genius, even in a befuddled state, he's still got it. I jus hope that one day he comes to his senses.
cyberfairy
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doubt he'll be in the NME as much if that happens...it's that car crash thing when talent eclipsed by tabloid coverage-I think Courtney Love a wonderful musician but that isn't what she's known for anymore...Cheesypoof said:
HarrisonSlade
say NO to the vaccine
You been getting into smack lately then?Cheesypoof said:
HarrisonSlade said:
His music, not his substance abuse. and no I'd never take drugs jus cos a singer does.......x
silentNate
1.618 xakep
So your not even a real fan then cheesypoof?Cheesypoof said:
fishfingerer
sultan of cringe
Tis a Half Man Half Biscuit song which refers to this:cyberfairy said:ooh, that was beautiful
...and words of The Libertines' What A Waster single - "When she wakes up in the morning, she writes down all her dreams, reads like the Book of Revelations, or the Beano or the unabridged Ulysses."
silentNate said:So your not even a real fan then cheesypoof?
shurrup. John lennon took heroin and acted like a tosser during his 'lost' year in 1975 and no one bangs on about that, do they? The problem for me is that a lot of ignorant people concentrate on merely the tabloid tattle circus surrpounding pete and NOT his music.
Cheesypoof said:
Tell you what thougth Cheesy, you must have the best connection in the world, judging from your possibly apocryphal 'experience'.
Cheesy Acid
Doherty is a faintly talented young man who suffers far too much hype, he's just not quite good enough to justify that hype, and it's such a waste to spend pointless time eulogising a junkie of his ilk. I mean - don't get me wrong - there have been some splendid but addicted artists in the world, but they
1/ TUrn up for gigs
2/ Do great gigs
3/ Write great songs
Sure there's an artistic tradition of substance abuse, but this doesn't mean PD qualifies, IMHO.
You music press people should go find some more talented abusers, he's like so old hat.
In any case, he's got a chance of recovery if he gets no attention.
zenie
>^^<
I think in a few years PD will have either died and so become a 'hero' in the nations eyes thus over glamourising all hs works and dying a 'genius' or he will just be forgotten and be living in a squat somewhere.
I mean what would he be famous for if it wasn't his blatant and idiotic use of drugs?
If he hadn't been chucked out of The Libertines for being off his face all the time would they have just turned into 'another rock band'?
Kate Moss wants to be forever young and trendy so she goes out with the most controversial man in music at the moment.
Let us not forget she has a daughter and I would hate to think that she allows PD around her child. I know I wouldn't.
I mean what would he be famous for if it wasn't his blatant and idiotic use of drugs?
If he hadn't been chucked out of The Libertines for being off his face all the time would they have just turned into 'another rock band'?
Kate Moss wants to be forever young and trendy so she goes out with the most controversial man in music at the moment.
Let us not forget she has a daughter and I would hate to think that she allows PD around her child. I know I wouldn't.
rocketman said:
Regarding your blatant lack of sensitivity about my acid experience,- it is not apocryphal at all - why the hell would it be when i have talked OPENLY about the experience, u moron?
I agree with *some* of your points but i'm honestly only interested in his music, and poetry - that's it.
cyberfairy
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i have tried to like his music, bought libertines album and listened to babyshambles but found it music that evaporates on reaching ears...i review bands and have seen others with such star quality and tunes that will never make it as others hog all the limelight...however we all have different tastes and thank god for that and it is nice to have a singer not banging on about their microbiotic eating habits etc and being a bit interesting, however spuriously so...Cheesypoof said:
The song 'for lovers' is genius.
Lisarocket
In bed with me dinner
To Cheesypoof
Are you really seduced by this pseudo junkie act that Doherty puts on. He may be a junkie or he may be not... he is the only one who knows. It all looks a bit contrived for my liking. The press love it but i feel sorry for the fans really. They have the dedication to turn up to gigs and support Doherty, but he can't be arsed really. I stood outside the Monarch one night leafleting for a gig and watched the gathering throng of young Petealikes waiting for him expectantly....he didn't turn up then. I tried to tell the kids he may not turn up but they wouldn't hear a wrong word about their hero Pete. Some of them were so upset they left crying....
I saw Babyshambles at Wireless and also saw loads of disappointed fans. I was watching out of interest really. I didn't see genius. I saw a selfish fucker who will be losing his record deal soon because when he did turn up 45 minutes late he turned in a less than average performance, was pissed (not smacked up) and slurred his way through about 5 songs having to be reminded what songs to do by the rest of the band...
As for the fucking appaling performance he put in at Live 8. If i was Elton i would have roasted his balls for being that crap on such an important day.
You can only put in so many crap performances or not turn up at all before people start realising your not worth the effort....
As someone succinctly put earlier in the thread. It's also not genius it's GCSE poetry.....
Are you really seduced by this pseudo junkie act that Doherty puts on. He may be a junkie or he may be not... he is the only one who knows. It all looks a bit contrived for my liking. The press love it but i feel sorry for the fans really. They have the dedication to turn up to gigs and support Doherty, but he can't be arsed really. I stood outside the Monarch one night leafleting for a gig and watched the gathering throng of young Petealikes waiting for him expectantly....he didn't turn up then. I tried to tell the kids he may not turn up but they wouldn't hear a wrong word about their hero Pete. Some of them were so upset they left crying....
I saw Babyshambles at Wireless and also saw loads of disappointed fans. I was watching out of interest really. I didn't see genius. I saw a selfish fucker who will be losing his record deal soon because when he did turn up 45 minutes late he turned in a less than average performance, was pissed (not smacked up) and slurred his way through about 5 songs having to be reminded what songs to do by the rest of the band...
As for the fucking appaling performance he put in at Live 8. If i was Elton i would have roasted his balls for being that crap on such an important day.
You can only put in so many crap performances or not turn up at all before people start realising your not worth the effort....
As someone succinctly put earlier in the thread. It's also not genius it's GCSE poetry.....
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Cheesypoof said:*stunned*
Pourquoi?
nino_savatte said:
the fact that you can't see his talent is what stuns me. It is all there in his melodies - it screams out in front of you. Listen to his music - if you already have
what is wrong with you nino???? Honestly!!
Lisarocket
In bed with me dinner
Cheesypoof said:the fact that you can't see his talent is what stuns me. It is all there in his melodies - it screams out in front of you. Listen to his music - if you already have
what is wrong with you nino???? Honestly!!
......and what's wrong with everyone else's opinion on this thread too
You seem to be in a minority of one there cheeseypoof.....
Cheesypoof said:
Hi there.
Just want to say I did say "possibly apocryphal". I mean - sure, your drug experience could be genuine, but the reasons for that reaction (I'm told by people who know) had NOTHING MUCH TO DO WITH THE DRUG!
Your reaction was not standard. So, the story is either apocryphal or a burden you must bear with which I am sorry you have been cursed.
Also - so are you seeing Pete Doherty the man, or Pete Doherty, the little dancing entertainment puppet?
He's not all that, you know. He just isn't. He wrote his best poetry before the age of 15, and is basically just a public school bloke bought up with high expectations who is having a hard time dealing with the reality in which he finds himself.
He is marginally more talented than Kate Moss, I'll grant you.
But he has to change his world before he changes ours.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Cheesypoof said:the fact that you can't see his talent is what stuns me. It is all there in his melodies - it screams out in front of you. Listen to his music - if you already have
what is wrong with you nino???? Honestly!!
You're getting silly now. Plenty of people have heard his music and think he's shit. Believe me, it's very, very easily done.
fishfingerer
sultan of cringe
Sorry cheesy, but he's completely fucken rubbish. End of. I thought this thread was a joke. Mind you, I used to think Morrissey was good. Wrong there.
rocketman said:
Sorry but i trust the judgment of Mick Jones way before i trust any of yours.
Cheesypoof said:
And what did he say?
And apart from his being a little more well-known than you assume I may be, do you know him? If you do, fine - what did he say? If you don't, then what is the difference between his judgement and mine?
Is it because of any presumed assumption on your part? And what is your genuine judgement?
It's not illogical to assume you are seeking a little feedback to support or disprove your thoughts, or you would be less likely to post this thread in the first place.
I want to ask for answers on a postcard, but most of the answers I write need a particularly large cardm so that would be dismissive and unfair.
rocketman said:
Mick Jones is the greatest producer of modern times, and one of the greatest music maestros of last century. The minute he heard the libertines music, he spotted the special dynamic between pete and carl, and likened it to either lennon and mccartney, jagger and richards, or himself and strummer.
It is all there in plain black and white in the music of up the bracket and the second album, there for you. I dont need to explain this - The Libertines, and Pete Doherty's musical talent is a generational thing. Believe me.
Cheesypoof said:
You mean he's on the record sleeve? Please clarify.
Do you mean the guy from Foreigner? Do you listen to that band too?
Honest. Doherty isn't the man. He is A man. There will be better generational-inspiring artists.
I like all kinds of music, but from where I live I am a bit of a fan of Skinnyman. He is real. Heard of him? Ask Angus.
rocketman said:
You dont know who mick jones is? I rest my case.
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