Pete Docherty vs Amy Winehouse

[Hi-ASL]

Not in my house.

 

[tarannau]

Is that the big house of finger-waggling illiterates who try to play smartarse and end up with egg on their face then?

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's a celebrity death-match I'd pay good cash money to see!

Talent-wise, Ms. Winehouse is going to win, hands down, every time. She's got the words, the delivery, and (sometimes) the voice. She's also got the potential to be better than she is.
Doherty on the other hand, reached his apogee a while back and is on the long glide down.

 

[ViolentPanda]

He was on Jonathon Ross, too. If that's not Friday night mainstream coverage, I don't know what is.

Still, we'll never understand, because we don't have the right kind of poetry in our souls, or something.

To which, I say "fucking good".

If Pete Doherty is indeed as the Cheesy one claims, a poet, then he's the spiritual heir to William T. McGonagall, not (as he attempts to paint himself, with his references to "Albion") William Blake.

 

[Cheesypoof]

If Pete Doherty is indeed as the Cheesy one claims, a poet, then he's the spiritual heir to William T. McGonagall, not (as he attempts to paint himself, with his references to "Albion") William Blake.

Robert Burns is more likely. The Robert Burns society in Scotland invited pete to read at the Burns festival in Scotland a few years ago.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2005/may/28/arts.books

 

[Iam]

Did he turn up?

 

[Cheesypoof]

Did he turn up?

yep and so did his adoring fans in a Scotland, causing a mini riot, the usual wherever he goes...

What pete outa do is get back with the libertines. Dirty Pretty things, (carls post libs band) have broken up, i am told. They have apparently agreed to finish their tour (am going next week) which should free up carl to get back with pete and write some devastating songs together.

Isitme will be wetting himself reading that!!

 

[dodgepot]

yep and so did his adoring fans in a Scotland, causing a mini riot, the usual wherever he goes...

they sound like a right bunch of twats.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Both are rated way beyond their level of ability

This sums it up for me.

 

[Hi-ASL]

Is that the big house of finger-waggling illiterates who try to play smartarse and end up with egg on their face then?

No, that's the big house of weird folk who don't feel comfy with missing c's in people's names and are on a mission to right the wrong. And who like correcting people with facts that they know are factually incorrect because they get some kind of sexual thrill from looking stupid in public.

 

[tarannau]

But his name's Doherty, not Docherty? Weirdo

 

[Cheesypoof]

they sound like a right bunch of twats.

Just teenagers having fun.

 

[Cheesypoof]

This sums it up for me.

I understand people not liking pete. But I find it *amazing* how there still might be some people out there not won over by Amy Winehouse.

 

[tarannau]

Why? She's an alright singer, but hardly that unusual. And if you judge her on recent performances she can't even sing properly.

I like her, but the idea that she's a massively rare talent strike me as false.

 

[dodgepot]

Just teenagers having fun.

a "mini-riot" sounds a bit more than just "teenagers having fun" but as i don't know the details of what happened i can't really comment. i think i heard once about a libertines or babyshambles gig getting cancelled due to a bit of the venue's ceiling collapsing and the fans started a bit of a riot outside, jumping up and down on cars and things. did that happen?

 

[Hi-ASL]

But his name's Doherty, not Docherty? Weirdo

Can't help noticing that there's a c in that that isn't there.

 

[Cheesypoof]

Why? She's an alright singer, but hardly that unusual. And if you judge her on recent performances she can't even sing properly.

I like her, but the idea that she's a massively unusual talent strike me as false.

There I think you are wrong. I read a lot about her, and I have NEVER read of any living artist (who is young) to receive the adulation she gets for her music.

She is already considered a musical legend and will go down in history as a legend.

I agree with you that she cant even sing anymore (live) either. Its devastating, and I wouldnt go and see her.

 

[tarannau]

Legend my arse. She's great paparazzi fodder, but nobody I've ever heard will call her a legend based on a couple of variable albums. It'd be daft to.

What's so unusual about a jazz-tinged singer learning the ropes at the BRIT school. Apart from being thin, young and white that is.

 

[tarannau]

Can't help noticing that there's a c in that that isn't there.

There's no 'c' in Doherty?

 

[Hi-ASL]

a "mini-riot" sounds a bit more than just "teenagers having fun" but as i don't know the details of what happened i can't really comment. i think i heard once about a libertines or babyshambles gig getting cancelled due to a bit of the venue's ceiling collapsing and the fans started a bit of a riot outside, jumping up and down on cars and things. did that happen?

Stow it, grandad. Either you're with us or against us. This is an anarchist website. There's nothing wrong with this kind of teen rebellion and I for one encourage it. This is what's missing from music these days. I only wish it was my stuff that got jumped on.

 

[lights.out.london]

There I think you are wrong. I read a lot about her, and I have NEVER read of any living artist (who is young) to receive the adulation she gets for her music.

She is already considered a musical legend and will go down in history as a legend.

I agree with you that she cant even sing anymore (live) either. Its devastating, and I wouldnt go and see her.

Only the voices in your head tell you that, Cheesy. She's ordinary - an ordinary singer and an ordinary drunk/addict who has the misfortune of being in the public eye. There are many many better female vocailists to fawn over.

 

[Hi-ASL]

There's no 'c' in Doherty?

No - it proceeds directly from o to h.

 

[marshall]

amy doesn’t look like she’s got much left in the tank, but with doherty you get the sneaky there’s an absolute corker of a solo album in him. somewhere. certainly wouldn’t be surprised if he cracked it at some point down the line. Not with a libs reform though.

 

[Cheesypoof]

Legend my arse. She's great paparazzi fodder, but nobody I've ever heard will call her a legend based on a couple of variable albums. It'd be daft to.

What's so unusual about a jazz-tinged singer learning the ropes at the BRIT school. Apart from being thin, young and white that is.

On a couple of albums, why do you think it be daft?

You are wrong about writing her off as a good vocalist and thats it, she is not seen that way.

 

[lights.out.london]

On a couple of albums, why do you think it be daft?

You are wrong about writing her off as a good vocalist and thats it, she is not seen that way.

She can barely speak let alone sing.

 

[Cheesypoof]

Only the voices in your head tell you that, Cheesy. She's ordinary - an ordinary singer and an ordinary drunk/addict who has the misfortune of being in the public eye. There are many many better female vocailists to fawn over.

Calling Amy Winehouse 'ordinary' is as bonkers as your thoughts on Ian Dury.

 

[lights.out.london]

Calling Amy Winehouse 'ordinary' is as bonkers as your thoughts on Ian Dury.

Not at all.

She is like a slightly pissed karaoke pub sing....................AH!

 

[Bonfirelight]

i don't really care for either of them to be honest.

Libertines had a couple of decent songs and Winehouse has some talent but neither has shown they have anything truly special and both will be largely forgotten in a decade.

6 out of 10s all round.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I find it *amazing* how there still might be some people out there not won over by Amy Winehouse.

She's good, but not that good. And currently heading downhill fast, her recent live performances have been embarrassingly bad.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Not at all.

She is like a slightly pissed karaoke pub sing....................AH!

Wow, so Amy does Mark E. Smith impersonations too!!