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People shots are the only photos that matter

What do you think of Mapplethorpe's flower photos? They usually make me laugh! Obviously quite technically perfect but the closest thing I've seen to slapstick compositions.
 
People shots are the only photos that matter

A voice for non-people type shots here. Personally, I think some of the greatest and most memorable photographs don't feature people. Landscape, documentary or, art photography can say much more in-depth about the world.

People shots are mostly individual portraits. If you know the individual in person or, have read much about them then that will affect the way you view the photograph.

My favourite photographs are often shots that feature the influence of people and society as a whole on the landscape/environment.

If I flick through a tabloid or, a photo website I'm just bombarded with thousands of meaningless faces.

People shots can be dull as ditch water (dish water?) more often than not. When they do strike a chord it's more often the person I'm relating to rather than the photograph.

Landscape work can also be very dull very often but, when they work they work in a far bigger way than any portrait ever can.
 
There's loads of amazing shots that aren't portraits. Check out da man Kertesz:

kertesz_buy.jpg
 
editor said:
There's loads of amazing shots that aren't portraits. Check out da man Kertesz:

In these instances I would say the people are simply a part of the landscape. Wouldn't call them people shots myself.

e2a; Edit for hungover vision blur! :D

Nice photograph.
 
editor said:
There's loads of amazing shots that aren't portraits. Check out da man Kertesz:

kertesz_buy.jpg

I'd say that photo would be nothing without the 'people' though, people shots and portraiture aren't the same thing are they? :confused:
 
zenie said:
I'd say that photo would be nothing without the 'people' though, people shots and portraiture aren't the same thing are they?
Sure. But they're hardly portraits are they?!
 
boskysquelch said:
I used to think Kertesz took pictures of landscapes with people in the way...but then I had an epiphany or summit. :)

ROFL - I think I'm just having one of those days where I just laugh at almost anything. I have mixed & laid over 100 litres of cement today. Don't know why I felt the need to share that. Might come back tonight when I've got something useful to add.
 
alef said:
What do you think of Mapplethorpe's flower photos? They usually make me laugh! Obviously quite technically perfect but the closest thing I've seen to slapstick compositions.
Technically they're very nice, but they're a bit too arch and ironic for my taste.

I like nature more than I like art, particularly highly reflexive art such as his stuff, or Martin Parr's or anything post-modern like that.
 
zenie said:
I'd say that photo would be nothing without the 'people' though, people shots and portraiture aren't the same thing are they? :confused:

Yes. But, they're not shots of people. They are not people shots. It's a landscape of a human environment. The people are an important part of the photograph but, they aren't recognisable characters or, individuals. The billboard model is all part of the manmade environment. You could equally take everything out of the shot except the people and it would be just as bland.

It's a shot about the human environment. Not a people shot IMO.
 
boskysquelch said:
buy this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Flora-Photographica-Masterpieces-Photography-Present/dp/0500283486

I cannot recommend it strongly enough for anyone who loves photographing flowers.

I'd even have sent you mine if some scumtwot hadn't knicked it off me last year and then sodded off to Thailand to perv forever.:rolleyes:

The way you are going, or could do, is a la http://www.heatherangel.co.uk/galleries.aspx?galId=6 tho'. :p
That looks interesting, thanks. I've seen Heather Angel's stuff, before but not that.
 
Stanley Edwards said:
Yes. But, they're not shots of people. They are not people shots. It's a landscape of a human environment. The people are an important part of the photograph but, they aren't recognisable characters or, individuals. The billboard model is all part of the manmade environment. You could equally take everything out of the shot except the people and it would be just as bland.

It's a shot about the human environment. Not a people shot IMO.

It is what I described as social photography, only way I can think to describe it.
 
John Blakemore taught me some of my printing skillage, how to use a 5x4 and the philosophies of phArtography when I was Doley scum_volunteer working for The Impressions Gallery, back in the 80s in York. :p

Should be a frkkn houshold name imho. :)
 
He is. Marks & Spencers always bring those books out with his photos in, the ones you find next to people's phones or in toilets.
 
firky said:

I think I've been in an M&S no more than you can count on one hand since the late 80's...there's is an ethical reason for it somewhere along the line I've fergot what tho'. :o

I do remember I stopped going into M&S around the time I got barked at to remove a load of thrush creams I'd decorously laid out in a shot of Lord Sieff's mrs's dressing table fer Tatler once...:D

Mind you he did greet me with salmon sandwiches and a glass of whiskey for breakfast funneh fkkr. :cool:

Fkkit I'm off to Lidl to get Real. :rolleyes:


btw I remember why I became JB's byatch for that summer now... coz he & Martin Parr happened to be watching me getting a Beaton exhibition ready for transport to Ireland when the phone rang...which I answered and then they heard me randomly ask the caller for his autograph...they asked me who I had been talking to...which was Angus Macbean...both rolled there eyes and suggested I ought to start understanding what I was getting into... I've still got the autograph somewhere. :)
 
Is it because they're zionists? :D

That is why I go in there ;)


TBH I gave my poor old mum a bollocking for getting M&S holiday insurance, told her she was killing little arabs :D
 
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