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Peckham Levels: Pop Brixton team takes over Peckham's iconic multi-story car park

Discussion in 'Brixton' started by editor, Nov 6, 2015.

  1. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Palaces of consumption for the middle classes are what brings in the commissions for the likes of CTA and "The Collective" - that and constructing a myth of edginess around their sanitised, safe palaces.
     
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  2. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    It would. It would probably also have assured Peckham's predominance as the place for middle class wanna-be Bohemians to aim themselves at, focusing a wave of "creatives" on Peckham's housing. Most of the artists in the studios would probably need to commute in. :(
     
  3. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Worth remembering Camberwell and Goldsmiths art colleges are both within a mile of that car park... And LCC is up the road in Elephant... Long history of young artists moving around Peckham
     
  4. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    The idea of Brixtonites turning up in Peckham meaning gentrification makes me laugh\ cry though....
     
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  5. Yup. There have been artists in se15 for like forever. How artists can afford to live there now, I have no idea.
     
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  6. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    I will wait to see the plans before passing comment. A scheme for artists studios was turned down in favour of a scheme that includes artists studios. We need to know what proportion of the various uses is planned.

    By the by, car parks have very low headroom and very deep floor plates with limited natural light. I can't imagine a worse building type to convert into studios.

    EDIT: I predict studios around the perimeter, with shared-use workshops etc in the middle. Retail/food/drink at ground and roof.
     
    Last edited: Nov 11, 2015
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  7. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Artists often find themselves in less than ideal studios, but are generally grateful for any affordable space. Looks like that's going to be at a premium in the area, what with all the grazing and nibbling units that will be moving into Pop Consumerism II.
     
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  8. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Do you have some information regarding the balance of uses in the proposed scheme?
     
  9. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The Guardian reported: "Southwark opts for rival proposal from Mayfair-based property developer that includes only 50 artists’ spaces in Peckham multistorey"

    "Southwark council has rejected plans that would have transformed a multistorey car park in south London into 800 affordable artists’ studios."

    "He and Barry were adamant that the community of Peckham would have benefited from their plans, which included paying Southwark council £200,000 a year in rent. Artists in residence would have had to pay just £100 in rent a month, and they claim the plans would have supported 2,500 local jobs – compared with the 600 generated by Pop Collective’s proposal."

    And we all know what Pop and The Collective are about
     
  10. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Aaaaah. ok. 50 is very low considering the size of the building :(
     
  11. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Local authorities have no money. 60% cuts to budgets, and are limited in the money they are allowed to raise. Will be reduced soon to running statutory services only.

    In that context it's understandable why Southwark might choose a scheme that brings in more money.
     
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  12. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    True, but it was always a bit more random - small clumps of studios down back-streets, or squatted warehouses and the like that Southwark Council didn't bother. Things started going tits-up for artists when Peckham started to see large-scale demolition and "regeneration" in the last 10-20 years, and a lot of (official and unofficial) community spaces were lost. Same as Brixton, really.
     
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  13. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    In an extremely short-sighted, community-stripping sense, yes. The amount of money Pop/Collective might provide to Southwark will be peanuts in the grand scheme of things anyway.
     
  14. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Sadly, some local authorities are already pruning statutory services back as far as they think they can get away with. :(
     
  15. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    As I tried to explain on a visit to a Southwark estate on Monday, local authorities are (and don't really have any choice unless they have reserves) forced into short-term money-making agreements based on a need for "ready cash" to support the services they have to provide, so pay very little attention to the long-term social or financial benefits a deal might have. I explained Lambeth's viability exercises for their Cressingham project, and how much it could put in the coffers now, against how much it would cost Council Tax/Business Rate payers in the long (30-50 years) term. They were horrified that Lambeth might get away with that.
     
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  16. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Southwark council would have loads of cash if they hadn't been criminally incompetent over the handling of the sale of the Heygate Estate.
     
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  17. Orang Utan

    Orang Utan Sub-Sub-Librarian

  18. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

  19. Rutita1

    Rutita1 Scum with no integrity, apparently.

  20. clandestino

    clandestino no llevar papel

    Just come on here to post that story! Fucking hell, no sooner has Pop Brixton's scheme been approved then gentrification ramps up a gear. They're like the grim reaper of twatishness.
     
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  21. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

  22. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    Oh for FUCK'S SAKE.

     
  23. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

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    Before its too late :(
     
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  24. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    Yep, a minimum of high end of 8 figures, lower end of 9 figures, apparently. Southwark either got played, or elements inside the council gave Lend Lease an easy ride, and exactly the same will happen in every local authority that runs a "demolish then rebuild" scheme.
     
  25. ViolentPanda

    ViolentPanda Hardly getting over it.

    I may just nick that! :)
     
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  26. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

  27. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Who has done that ed?
     
  28. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    The doing-very-nicely-ta Carl Turner Architects, the uber-capitalist Collective and Southwark. Double G&Ts all round!
     
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  29. ska invita

    ska invita back on the other side

    Sorry if I'm being slow, is that website related to the Pop Brixton of the op?
     
  30. editor

    editor Taffus Maximus

    It's a different project but the same team as Pop Brixton.
     

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