PC vs Mac

[Crispy]

My next laptop will probably be a Dell. What's so funny about that?

Nothing funny. Internets are serious business, but mac vs pc is serious like cancer.

 

[ChrisFilter]

So, you're not taking me up on the macbook price challenge then



So in fact your claim that macs are 'double' the price of pcs comes down to one whole personal price comparison on one model? Very weak.

How is that weak? I went shopping for a laptop. I looked at the best Windows laptop I could get for my money then looked at the Mac equivalent to see if I could stretch my budget (see, all things being equal I'd have even chosen a Mac!) but it was double the price.

 

[Kanda]

Not double the power or ability though no?

 

[Crispy]

yup, the macbook pros are rip offs. the macbook is still pretty competitive, though.

 

[boskysquelch]

ACTUARSEY.. now I remember...the ting that pzzd me off yesterday was the Dell sprunging of the Penryn chip.

*Penryn is not a chip...it's a place ffs! http://www.cornwalls.co.uk/Penryn/

and no I'm not kidding...the Penryn thing has irked me tbf.

 

[tarannau]

Yep. The macbook pro's overpriced, but it's aimed at generous wallets and corporate accounts. Even so, it's duff logic to claim that macs are 'twice' as expensive based on the price of one cost comparison on one model.

 

[ethel]

i love my macbook. i bought it at dixons tax free at the airport and saved a few quid too.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

You were presumably equally annoyed by Newcastle, Wincherster, Barcelona, San Diego, Venice, Tualatin, Banias, Dothan, etc.

 

[fractionMan]

this debate's pants.

Linux will win in the long run anyway.

 

[boskysquelch]

You were presumably equally annoyed by Newcastle, Wincherster, Barcelona, San Diego, Venice, Tualatin, Banias, Dothan, etc.

nope.

it's a Cornish thang...

*shocking really if you look into the History thereof.

e2a::tbh don't bother looking it up

 

[boskysquelch]

this debate's pants.

Linux will win in the long run anyway.

one day there may even be a Forum here abouts.

 

[catrina]

My previous experience with PC laptops has been horrible, but since I got a Dell everything has been brilliant, and it was very cheap. Adobe software recently crashed the thing, but it took less than half a day to back up, reinstall and start over, and now a 4 year old laptop is working as brand new. The battery still goes on for hours, as well.

My work pc (Dell) could use with a reformatting, but it's 6 years old now and still working fine.

I've considered switching to a mac, but I think they're just too expensive, especially since there will inevitably be programs you will have to live without.

 

[Crispy]

to be fair, the only program I miss from the PC is Picasa. iPhoto is good, but not as good. And I use my computer for all sorts of stuff. There really isn't a software drought on the mac.

 

[catrina]

There are statistics programs for work that are not supported on a mac, that would mean learning a new program and exporting all my data to it. I consider that a pretty major inconvenience! (And it would also mean not being able to exchange data with people I work with...)

 

[ChrisFilter]

to be fair, the only program I miss from the PC is Picasa. iPhoto is good, but not as good. And I use my computer for all sorts of stuff. There really isn't a software drought on the mac.

Apart from games.

 

[Crispy]

If it's SPSS, then that is on the mac, but yes, specialist/professional stuff can be lacking. I wouldn't recommend a mac as a work computer unless it was used for completely generic tasks.

 

[Crispy]

Apart from games.

xbox & wii for that

 

[editor]

to be fair, the only program I miss from the PC is Picasa. iPhoto is good, but not as good. And I use my computer for all sorts of stuff. There really isn't a software drought on the mac.

Although you can get just about the same functionality on both platforms, there's quite a few PC progs I'd really miss like ACDSee Pro, Homesite, TopStyle, Agendus and Xara. And of course my swishy Di Novo Edge keyboard wouldn't work either.

But I'm sure I'd survive

 

[Crispy]

Yeah, you'd be fine, there are good equivalents for those apps.

 

[jæd]

If it's SPSS, then that is on the mac, but yes, specialist/professional stuff can be lacking. I wouldn't recommend a mac as a work computer unless it was used for completely generic tasks.

Depends on what areas your working on. I know a few people who use Macs as primary business computers who work in specialised fields and some who are in generic admin/management fields.

Don't forget you can always install Windows on it if you need to...

 

[ChrisFilter]

xbox & wii for that

Yeah, but then you've got a credit card bill approaching £2k, as opposed to £800. I take your point entirely, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

 

[jæd]

Approximately every three years, my PC dies. So I end up going down pc world to get something off the shelf in a blind panic.

The main applications I use are Textpad, Firefox, WS_FTP and Photoshop.

If you're going to be do web-design, one handy thing to remember is that you can install Firefox 2.x/3.x, Safari + IE all at once. And even have them all running concurrently... Easy IE install : http://www.kberg.ch/ies4osx/

 

[ChrisFilter]

Not double the power or ability though no?

Nope... nowhere near. Probably only very slightly more power thanks to OSX, and even lessened ability dependent on how you want to use it.

 

[Crispy]

Yeah, but then you've got a credit card bill approaching £2k, as opposed to £800. I take your point entirely, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

I'm playing Zak & Wiki - Quest for Barbaros' Treasure

 

[Crispy]

Don't forget you can always install Windows on it if you need to...

Yeah,but it's not exactly painless.
I use specialised software at work that will never be on the mac, so windows it is. The right tool for the right job

 

[jæd]

Yeah,but it's not exactly painless.
I use specialised software at work that will never be on the mac, so windows it is. The right tool for the right job

It depends on what you mean by "painless". If you can follow instructions then its quite "painless"...

 

[ChrisFilter]

I'm playing Zak & Wiki - Quest for Barbaros' Treasure

I see what you did there. I'm playing CoD4 and Crysis. And HL2 Ep 1 but with the fancy HD mod.

 

[Crispy]

It depends on what you mean by "painless". If you can follow instructions then its quite "painless"...

No, as in "will suck up a massive amount of RAM and not support 3D, or require a complete restart" - which is considerable pain, in my book.

 

[ChrisFilter]

So you can't play games on a Macbook Pro running Windows? Glad I didn't stump up the cash then.

Why did they stick a gaming capable gfx card in it?

 

[Crispy]

So you can't play games on a Macbook Pro running Windows? Glad I didn't stump up the cash then.

Why did they stick a gaming capable gfx card in it?

No, you can. It's just that Parallels doesn't support accelerated 3D, so if you want that, you have to reboot into Windows proper.

I've played a few PC games on my imac booted into Windows, it works just fine. The graphics are some midrange ATI thing, so nothing spectacular.