agreed. Stories and immersive gameplay are always best for me. I want to be entertained by games created by people with great artistic talent, putting together story, art, sound design and level design. Online games may be great, but I enjoy a truly immersive experience. I also think this is more of a PC viewpoint as well. Consoles are marketed at a midway point. Multiple controller, simplified games, dexterity over strategy. I may be wrong, but this is how I have not come to have a console in 25 years of gaming and played online games maybe 10 times or so.
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agreed. Stories and immersive gameplay are always best for me. I want to be entertained by games created by people with great artistic talent, putting together story, art, sound design and level design. Online games may be great, but I enjoy a truly immersive experience. I also think this is more of a PC viewpoint as well. Consoles are marketed at a midway point. Multiple controller, simplified games, dexterity over strategy. I may be wrong, but this is how I have not come to have a console in 25 years of gaming and played online games maybe 10 times or so.
kained&able
Here for the football.
Try playing a football game on a muose and keyboard!(other then management obviously)
Depends what kind of game it is if pc is better then console really. FPS and RTS, simulation games pc wins hands down. Anything platformery, shooty(other then fps)racing or sports then its all about the console.
The fact that the only decent controller that has ever been released for a pc is an x-box controller is quite telling and before that the only sensible option was getting a convertor and ps2 pad.
Consoles have only just started exploiting the online capabilities but its going quite well so far.
dave
Depends what kind of game it is if pc is better then console really. FPS and RTS, simulation games pc wins hands down. Anything platformery, shooty(other then fps)racing or sports then its all about the console.
The fact that the only decent controller that has ever been released for a pc is an x-box controller is quite telling and before that the only sensible option was getting a convertor and ps2 pad.
Consoles have only just started exploiting the online capabilities but its going quite well so far.
dave
Cid
Proper break this time
You think you can get a faster response time on a joypad than with a mouse?
Console games usually have some kind of auto aim to compensate, turn it off and things get much harder.
Silva
This went well.
Bollocks to that. The old Microsoft Sidewinder (this one) was great, so was the Gravis Gamepad, both in their pre-dual analogues time, and after that, Logitech adapted a PS2 design that worked just as well. All were pretty much the reference pad for sports games in the same way Microsoft pushed the X360 pad to be the reference for all Windows gaming.
Sports on a PC have a huge advantage over consoles - modability. FIFA, for instance, is constantly getting better textures, updated rosters and even new leagues because it's easy to create that stuff (I should know, been a top-ish modder for FIFA 2001 and 2002). With consoles, most times it takes a modding or a lot of work to get things going.
revol68
what, fucking what?
Sorry regarding FIFA you are talking shit, the PC version of FIFA is dire, far inferior to the console masterpiece. As for rosters, new leagues, form updates and the like, well they are all in the console versions without having the faff about. FIFA on the PC could be an amazing game however it EA have decided to keep released the shitty old generation game engine on the PC because according to them PC's aren't capable of the power needed for the next generation engine, a retarded claim made even more baffling by the fact Crysis, the most resource hungry game to date, is published by EA.
p.s. anyone who played FIFA over PES back in 2001/2002 clearly has no clue about football games.
p.s. anyone who played FIFA over PES back in 2001/2002 clearly has no clue about football games.
kained&able
Here for the football.
Okay First of all the sidewinder pad while being the best pc pad ar the time was still shit. The d-pad was terrible and the top three buttons were a bastard to use. The logitech ps clone was decent but not as confortable as the ps2 pad if memory serves.
The modibility is like that on the current fifa game on the xbox. You get this thing called live season which updates rosters and player stats etc. So thats no longer an advantage a pc has.
So bollocks to your bollocks!
dave
Silva
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Never had problems with the D-pad or the Top Buttons, but I was also used to the Mega Drive/Saturn pads. It still seems more comfortable than the four shoulder pads that cramp my fingers like hell with the PlayStation. Mostly because of having fingers longer than the average (and before you ask, other than being ugly as hell, I had no problems with the XBox original controller).
Fine, you can update. But can you get, dunno, completely new leagues, vintage kits, stuff that wasn't included due to licensing (which still is an issue with Pro Evolution Soccer) or changed graphics (balls, adboards, even stadiums) ? You're stuck with what the developers decides to include, not what anyone with time and some basic knowledge can do. And like I've said - this was the only thing that made FIFA 2002 even remotely bearable.
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