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Quite. Also, it is odd to assume just because people praise Sweden for it's higher standards of living and greater equality, it means we have to adapt their more authoritarian aspects.

It's just the age-old False Dichotomy tactic. It's like when people used to say "you say you don't like Maggie Thatcher? Well live in Russia instead and see how bad THAT is!".
 
The pub. last place of freedom?

Even that's not looking promising. Went to a nightclub tonight; there were a couple of huge screens either side of the stage with "SMOKING KILLS" in huge fonts projected on them. I've never been a smoker, yet I found the whole thing very surreal and quite disturbing (not to mention mildly offensive). I wonder what government approved commands / suggestions may be up there next week....
 
* Don't forget to your tax returns.
* Drink responsibly
* It is illigal to take an unregistered taxi
* Remember to take your passport with you the next time you top up your beer, PAYG phone, electricity
* The sound system has been approved under EU5968, night club act, section 62
 
* All UK Subjetcs are reminded that it is an offence under the Unauthorised Opinions Act 2010 to voice any opinion contarary to the officially-approved statement issued in today's State Bulletin - copies of which are available online (please have your ID card number ready to access the web) and at your local library or post office (Those few that remain, anyway). If in doubt whether your opinion is permitted, please check with official sources beforehand.

Offenders will be liable to a fine of £8000 or two years imprisonment. If you feel you have been unfairly convicted, you have the right to appeal upon payment of a non-refundable (whether appeal is successful or not) deposit of £8000 once you have served your sentence in full.
 
* All UK Subjetcs are reminded that it is an offence under the Unauthorised Opinions Act 2010 to voice any opinion contarary to the officially-approved statement issued in today's State Bulletin - copies of which are available online (please have your ID card number ready to access the web) and at your local library or post office (Those few that remain, anyway). If in doubt whether your opinion is permitted, please check with official sources beforehand.

Offenders will be liable to a fine of £8000 or two years imprisonment. If you feel you have been unfairly convicted, you have the right to appeal once you have served your sentence in full.

Shhh! Don't give New Labour any more ideas.
 
* Don't forget to your tax returns.
* Drink responsibly
* It is illigal to take an unregistered taxi
* Remember to take your passport with you the next time you top up your beer, PAYG phone, electricity
* The sound system has been approved under EU5968, night club act, section 62

Ye Gods.... true words spoken in jest and all that, and Daily Mailesque hysteria aside......fucking hell :(
 
Of course UK Government has never yet let the UK people have a mass method of communication that it could not easily eavesdrop on.

Why should it change the habits of a lifetime now?
 
Ye Gods.... true words spoken in jest and all that, and Daily Mailesque hysteria aside......fucking hell :(

I can't see big businesses like Tesco, Asda, Sainsburies rolling over and agreeing to double their staff costs etc refit their supermarkets etc. Yes, Scandinavia does this but do they have huge powerful supernmarket chains calling the shots like in this country??
 
I can't see big businesses like Tesco, Asda, Sainsburies rolling over and agreeing to double their staff costs etc refit their supermarkets etc. Yes, Scandinavia does this but do they have huge powerful supernmarket chains calling the shots like in this country??

If it happens it'll just be rolled into existing store refit programmes. Not sure where you get the doubling of staff costs from - you just close 2 checkouts and put someone in the 'booze bin' to manage that, same way the ciggie kiosks are separate from the rest of the store...
 
If it happens it'll just be rolled into existing store refit programmes. Not sure where you get the doubling of staff costs from - you just close 2 checkouts and put someone in the 'booze bin' to manage that, same way the ciggie kiosks are separate from the rest of the store...

I doubt it'll happen. Cigarette kiosks are different - they're there to stop people shoplifting....

... not sure how this works with stores doing self service as well.....



stupidity...
 
Instore pharmacies occupy a similar position. It's just a question of roping off the booze section and dumping a till in it, piece of piss.
 
Ye Gods.... true words spoken in jest and all that, and Daily Mailesque hysteria aside......fucking hell :(

This is now spinning out of fucking control.

Jesus H Fucking christ. Someone HAS to start saying "ENOUGH NOW ALREADY" about all this insane, powercrazed control-freak shit.

I am so seriously fucking SICK of this whole neo-puritanist arseholery that just seems to be relentlessy on the rise.

Will people even be able to pick the items off the shelf - or will you be expected to ask for each bottle of bear to be handed down by the person behind the counter? Perhaps this should go further and ONLY allow each shopper a certain number of bottles per visit?

I mean - I just don't know anymore. I'm an adult in my 30s, but clearly we all need to be treated like minors from now on.

ARSEHOLES!!!
 
Instore pharmacies occupy a similar position. It's just a question of roping off the booze section and dumping a till in it, piece of piss.

Pharmacies employ pharmacists and specialised staff. I'm loving the idea booze counters will employ specialist staff... specialising in what exactly --- errrr ?????

Remember this country is practically run by Tesco, so if they object this silly idea will never see the light of day.

Walk of shame my arse, was that something they were really hoping for or just something a bored Mail journalist invented. Yeah, there's real shame in buying a bottle of wine to go with tea.

Supermarket alcohol sales will plummet as people won't want to queue and think they'll just nip down the offie later... that's why I don't think the supermarkets will like this.
 
This is now spinning out of fucking control.

Jesus H Fucking christ. Someone HAS to start saying "ENOUGH NOW ALREADY" about all this insane, powercrazed control-freak shit.

I am so seriously fucking SICK of this whole neo-puritanist arseholery that just seems to be relentlessy on the rise.


ARSEHOLES!!!

I especially like the fact that discussion of this issue rarely - if ever - touches on the issue of why people might be drinking more in the first place....what's next? Cake rationing?
 
1. Some supermarkets in more upmarket areas employ sommelliers; all supermarkets employ people on the tills, so it's not much an effort to move some members of staff from the front of store checkout to a licenced trade area. Indeed, staff on the ciggie counters are usually rotated off the main bank as it is.

2. Supermarkets sell more booze because they're cheaper than anywhere else.
 
Starting to be cheaper going to some offies esp Threshers now, though, they do have competition. The alcohol aisle in the new Tesco that's opened up here is RUBBISH!
 
walk of shame? to or from what? I'm buying stuff in cash ffs, where is the shame in that? I think that it's a rather good article. a bored or lazy jurno under pressure to write some emotive bull-crap.


added:- and if "we" are sooooo concerned, why isn't there a walk of shame to or from a pub? Councils monitoring how much booze has been consumed at weddings and parties in town halls? "officials" in silly hi-vis jackets carrying breatho-llizers with the right to ask >anyone< for a breath test? ten pounds for every part per million that you are over the approved limit.
 
Are they going to criminalise giving your old phone to a mate, for example?

Hmm. Well, that's reducing sales of new phones, so reducing companies ability to make a profit, so yes, I'd expect so.

Also sounds dangerously close to recycling, which is clearly some kind of terrorist attack on the mining companies.
 
How many mobiles get stolen every year exactly?

But if your phone gets stolen you cancel the SIM no?
Are they going to criminalise giving your old phone to a mate, for example?

Probably not but expect a lengthy questioning if that phone is then linked to a crime.

As for the miilions of contrcat free anonymous phone slaready in circulation I could see the phone companies being ordered to switch off these sims.If the owner wanted to retain his number he would have to apply and register his phone and receive a new traceable sim.
 
But if your phone gets stolen you cancel the SIM no?


Probably not but expect a lengthy questioning if that phone is then linked to a crime.

As for the miilions of contrcat free anonymous phone slaready in circulation I could see the phone companies being ordered to switch off these sims.If the owner wanted to retain his number he would have to apply and register his phone and receive a new traceable sim.

The phone company already have my address because I've registered my debit card for payments with them.

I don't know how a passport accurately helps tracing someone's current address??


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I don't know how a passport accurately helps tracing someone's current address??


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Because, under govt plans, from 2012 your passport will be linked to your entry into the National Identity Register. Your NIR record will have your current address. Failure to notify the authorities when you move, so that your NIR record may be updated, will be an offence. By 2022, all passport holders will have an NIR entry.

All the pieces fit together.
 
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