Panasonic Lumix DC-GX9 rangefinder style camera gets glowing review

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by editor, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. editor

    editor hiraethified

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    DPreview has given it a glowing 84%/Silver award
    Panasonic Lumix DC-GX9 review

    Here's the comparisons I looked up from here. Pretty impressive stuff.

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  2. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral. R.I.P.

    It seems to be a fabulous allrounder for most enthusiasts. However, no manual control over the ISO settings is a fundamental fuck up as far as I am concerned. I suspect the keen enthusiasts they are after will be put off by this also.
     
  3. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I would be beyond amazed if you can't change ISO ratings manually. Where are you getting that from?
     
  4. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral. R.I.P.

    Perhaps I am getting it wrong? From the review...

    "Auto ISO
    The GX9 unfortunately comes with a rather simplistic Auto ISO system. You can set the range of ISO values to use and you can specify a minimum shutter speed, but leaving the minimum shutter speed to 'auto' sees the camera just using 1/60 sec as the minimum..."
     
  5. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral. R.I.P.

    Even if I am understanding correctly, perhaps a software upgrade can override.
     
  6. editor

    editor hiraethified

    That's only talking about the auto ISO system. You can still select ISO values manually.
     
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  7. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    that doesn't sound like the iso can't be manually set - after all, if you set it to auto iso you've obviously abrogated control on that function to the camera.
     
  8. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    you're not so it's unnecessary
     
  9. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral. R.I.P.

    OK. Cool.
     
  10. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    That’s just about the auto ISO setting, which it shares with the GX8 which I have and which _is_ pretty dumb. On the Ricoh GR for instance you can set a shutter speed threshold at which it will step up a stop in ISO, so for instance you can be sure that you’re at least at 1/250. Panasonic’s software doesn’t let you do that and fixes it at 1/60, at least for shorter lenses, which is fine for relatively static shots but is no good for street stuff.

    I don’t have a problem with this in the daytime because I’m shooting with f1.4-1.7 lenses and ISO 200 (the base) always gives me a good speed. However at night or in dark places I have to manually set the ISO or I end up with a load of blurs.
     
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  11. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    The thing that makes me pause about this is that apparently it’s got a worse EVF than the GX8. EVF performance is a deal breaker for me. (Admittedly I’m not going to buy another digital body anyway.)

    Better JPEGs would be nice though - I never shoot raw and the GX8 just doesn’t do great JPEG colours IMO, though a lot of it’s down to the auto white balance. Manually setting WB seems to result in better colours even if you may need to adjust them in post.
     
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  12. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    i had a look on amazon and i'm surprised it's only had one review (albeit a five star one) since february.
     
  13. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral. R.I.P.

    I've got it now. You can select Auto, or Intelligent, or manually select from ISO 100 up to a very impressive 25,600!
     
  14. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Oh for a dust-proof new Ricoh GR. It's still the best camera controls I've ever used on a compact.
     
  15. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Yeah :/ I was considering sending mine off to get de-dusted but the idea that it’ll probably just get dusty again really puts me off. I guess we’ll see what the next version is like, that should be coming out soon.
     
  16. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    In practice, past ISO 3200 is a bit crap, and 3200 is not exactly fine art quality (though perfectly usable).
     
  17. editor

    editor hiraethified

    It's looong overdue, leading some to suspect there may never be a Mk3. I've looked at alternatives but nothing matches its size/quality.
     
  18. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    Can't see in that anything about max f number. How high does it go?
     
  19. editor

    editor hiraethified

    Depends on the lens that's fitted.
     
  20. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

    Yeh thought that might be the case as soon as I posted :oops:
     
  21. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    for the record I think the fastest lens available for the system is f0.95, which seems to be a general limit for reasons that I'm not sure about but an optical engineer could probably explain
     
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  22. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

    Is this a good upgrade for my ageing GX7?
     
  23. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    It’s a little larger I think but it seems like a good option. The lead reviewer of the article at the start of the thread later made it his camera of the year: Gear of the Year 2018 - Carey's choice: Panasonic GX9

    If I was buying another Lumix it would be the one I’d get.
     
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  24. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

    Thanks :)
     
  25. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

    Got a 2nd hand G9 instead and kept the GX7 for more undercover shooting...
     
  26. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Incidentally I got a GX800 recently on eBay to replace my GF2 as a pocket camera and it is actually pretty good. It’s a compact rather than RF styled like other GXes, or SLR styled like the G(H) series, but it shares a lot of the modes and has great IQ. It’s also frickin tiny, approaching the point of being too small for my hands - here it is with the Pana 20/1.7 pancake which looks relatively huge despite being one of the smaller m43 lenses.

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    It’s not there to replace my GX8, which is much easier to shoot with and change settings on the fly, but as a pocket camera it seems really good so far, and in some ways it may even outperform it.
     
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  27. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

    What lenses do you have?
    I think I asked 3-4 years ago on this forum for advice and ended up with the cheapie Oly 40-150mm (amazing buy).
     
  28. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    too many

    25/1.4
    20/1.7
    14/2.5
    42.5/1.7
    45-150
    14-140 mk ii
    an old 14-42 kit lens somewhere

    All Panasonic. The 25/1.4 is the best but it is a bit big for something this size - it fits well with the GX8 though.
     
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  29. Virtual Blue

    Virtual Blue ready

    That's not too many!
    That's quite a nice range of shots - can tell you prefer to use your feet.
    I was researching the 25/ 1.4 but ended up with the 15/ 1.7.
     
  30. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Yeah, I almost always shoot with primes, though the 45-150 is also pretty good. I don’t use the 14-140 much; it’s more of a video lens and I don’t shoot any video.

    The 15/1.7 is probably going to be my next lens, though I don’t really need it as such....
     

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