Palm Treo 800w/850w/Pro

[Crispy]

nice looking machine.
what's the main competition for something like this? what's a comparably swish WM phone these days?

 

[editor]

nice looking machine.
what's the main competition for something like this? what's a comparably swish WM phone these days?

I'd see it as being more against the Blackberry Bold (in the States at least, where Palm is still a fairly big corporate player), but I guess in the WM world it'll be up against the HTC Touch/Shadow, Samsung Blackjack and Moto Q9, but there's probably loads of others I'm forgetting.

I'd prefer it against all of the WM machine, and it edges the Bold by having a touch screen. Shame the screen isn't bigger though.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Nice lookig phone, decent specs but when is Palm going to actually release a non WM new phone??

 

[Crispy]

Nice lookig phone, decent specs but when is Palm going to actually release a non WM new phone??

When it succesfully updates the Palm OS... ... ...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

When it succesfully updates the Palm OS... ... ...

And that'll be what 2050 AD? Seriously, if they have the resources to pump out new designs, new phones and waste time and money on crap like the Fooleo why on earth can't they get the new OS sorted?

 

[Crispy]

Speaking of the foleo - there's this: http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/redfly-mobile-companion-gets-previewed/ Which is like a WM foleo.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Weird time slipping double post...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Speaking of the foleo - there's this: http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/redfly-mobile-companion-gets-previewed/ Which is like a WM foleo.

Ok, dated March 19th..?

 

[Crispy]

Oh
Only saw it the other day

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Oh
Only saw it the other day

LOL! No probs, confused the hell out of me a for a sec.

 

[editor]

Remember Engadget laughing at Palm going, "no one's going to want an underpowered ultra mobile PC - it's a useless concept!!"?

They sure changed their tune.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Remember Engadget laughing at Palm going, "no one's going to want an underpowered ultra mobile PC - it's a useless concept!!"?

They sure changed their tune.

Yep although my main point still stands, the Foleo...actualy no I can't be bothered!

 

[editor]

Some more pics of the Treo Pro are out. It does look very nice.

http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/more_treo_pro_pictures.html

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Very nice looking phone, very nice indeed.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Video hands on with the Treo Pro.

That is a very nice looking phone!

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Totally geeking out now but I do like these ear phones too:

 

[editor]

I'm going to get a review model on the 2nd September so I'll have more details then. Looks like a real nice phone so I'm looking forward to having a play.

The phone will be available in the UK in September through Vodafone from free on contract and also available through O2 direct sales and online business stores, with an unlocked version having a suggested retail price of £399 (it'll prob be online for a fair bit cheaper).

Here's the features they're bigging up for the UK launch:

Microsoft Direct Push Technology(4) -- Direct connection to Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 SP2 or 2007 gives users up-to-date email, contacts and calendars.

· Microsoft System Center Mobile Device Manager 2008 -- With the deployment of Mobile Device Manager, the Treo Pro can deliver increased security, easier smartphone management, and access to information on the corporate network. IT professionals can confidently manage large Treo Pro deployments.

· Thousands of applications available for Windows Mobile -- Businesses can extend mobility beyond email to optimize business processes.

· World phone -- With high-speed UMTS/HSDPA network capabilities(5), Treo Pro is a sleek world phone that’s ideal for companies with an international work force.

· Integrated GPS -- Users can access maps, turn-by-turn directions and point-of-interest (POI) searches.(1)

· Support and training -- Palm shortcuts make Treo Pro so easy to use, businesses can spend less on training and support for their users.

· Familiar Windows experience -- Users can browse the web with built-in Internet Explorer Mobile; open, view, and edit Word and Excel compatible files; review PowerPoint presentations and PDF files; and open ZIP files remotely.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Look forward to your DL review...

The splash page is now live on the Us Palm site. The markets like the look of this phone too is seems, Palm shares up 6%.

 

[Hyb]

Available on Voda from September.

 

[editor]

There's some nice touches: it installs itself on a PC without the need to run a CD - just plug it in and it does the rest and there's a backlight behind the 'Palm' central logo that lights up when you get email.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

I like that install from device thing.

 

[editor]

If only it wasn't bastard WM powering the thing, I'd be sorely tempted by this phone.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

If only it wasn't bastard WM powering the thing, I'd be sorely tempted by this phone.

Heh I'd be saving the pennies right now if it wasn't for the fact that I only just bought the Centro a couple months ago (Random One would go ballistic if I bought yet 'another bloody gadget'! ) ...this phone looks very cool. Palm really seem to have realised that a decent design is needed.

If only they could get their new OS out they might have a fighting chance of surviving the iPhone onslaught....

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Also like the way they've cottoned onto the packaging thing too:

 

[Crispy]

on any PC? I think Vista has Activesync built-in these days doesn't it?

Otherwise, if it has the activesync installer onboard, and mounts as a drive and autoruns it when you plug it in, that's very

 

[editor]

It's certainly getting a bit encouraging for the Palm OS launch next year...

Even if folks hate Palm, it's important to have them in the marketplace, adding a few nice touches here and there which will, no doubt, be picked up by other manufacturers (just like Apple borrowed Palm's threaded SMS and ringer on/off switch, and half the world is now borrowing features off the fabulously innovative iPhone).

 

[Kid_Eternity]

It's certainly getting a bit encouraging for the Palm OS launch next year...

How do you mean?

Even if folks hate Palm, it's important to have them in the marketplace, adding a few nice touches here and there which will, no doubt, be picked up by other manufacturers (just like Apple borrowed Palm's threaded SMS and ringer on/off switch, and half the world is now borrowing features off the fabulously innovative iPhone).

I don't know about hating Palm but I can see why people get frustrated with some of their idiocy.

Agree though that the smartphone market is better for them being in it choice wise, but unless they turn things around and play within the current parameters (which is increasingly influenced if not dominated by Apple) they're gonna get trounced.

 

[Crispy]

I don't hat palm, they've just got a long way to climb to get PalmOS back to the top of the pile.

 

[editor]

How do you mean?

I mean that if they're creating well thought-out Windows products, putting in a lot of care and attention with a bit of interesting innovation, then it bodes well for the new Palm OS phones which, presumably, they'll be putting even more time, effort and resources into.

I don't hat palm, they've just got a long way to climb to get PalmOS back to the top of the pile.

They're still top of the pile when it comes to some software and they're still one of the fastest OS's about (if not the fastest), but there's no denying that the Palm OS feature set is looking rather elderly.

 

[Sunray]

It's certainly getting a bit encouraging for the Palm OS launch next year...

Even if folks hate Palm, it's important to have them in the marketplace, adding a few nice touches here and there which will, no doubt, be picked up by other manufacturers (just like Apple borrowed Palm's threaded SMS and ringer on/off switch, and half the world is now borrowing features off the fabulously innovative iPhone).

I seem to remember Apple currently exists because Steve Jobs got a tour around Xerox and saw a their gui demos.

Tech karma perhaps?