Johnny Canuck3
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You're forgetting where you are. You're on a board where americans are derided in general for the small proportion that hold passports.
Palin v. Biden Debate: You gonna watch?
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You're forgetting where you are. You're on a board where americans are derided in general for the small proportion that hold passports.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Is this what father time does to the JCs of the internet board community?
Where is the dogged JC of long ago? It's not the same anymore.
Where is the dogged JC of long ago? It's not the same anymore.
Dilute_micro,
As I say, apply what you're saying. Present evidence that Biden, relative to Palin, has not on his foreign trips been intelligent enough to take things in, misuses the knowledge he has gained, learned inaccurate information, or learned irrelevant information. Otherwise, surely, there is no point on a thread about Biden and Palin in making the points you are making.
As I say, apply what you're saying. Present evidence that Biden, relative to Palin, has not on his foreign trips been intelligent enough to take things in, misuses the knowledge he has gained, learned inaccurate information, or learned irrelevant information. Otherwise, surely, there is no point on a thread about Biden and Palin in making the points you are making.
dilute micro
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Holy shit.
Zion, I don't have to provide evidence. I'm not making the claim. I get to lay in the hammock and pop shots at a one winged chicken trying to fly.
You continue to not realize you're assuming it to be true at the outset and demanding for me to show it isn't. That's not how it works. We're not even at the point where we can drag in an actual person. To do so is assuming "all things being equal" - which I pointed out is the main contention here. All people are not equal in their talents and abilities. For this passport idea to have a chance they would have to be. I don't think even you would argue that and should you try - I'll point out your recognition of the need to assume "all things being equal" earlier.
Again -
To say the possession (and use) of a passport makes a vice president better than one who hasn't makes these major assumptions:
1 - the visitor is intelligent and appreciative enough to take things in.
2 - the visitor will put that knowledge to use and presumably in a good way. Otherwise it's either ineffectual, unless harm was the goal, or benign.
3 - there is no error in what they think they learned there. So on that visit they interpreted everything right and that's the new knowledge they return home with.
4 - that it matters anyhow regardless of how superficial it might be.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
by SOME...most here are bright enough to differentiate between those in power (whose actions are those of the State) and the poor saps gulled by them.
Sensitive, are we? thin-skinned, hmm?
King Biscuit Time
Well-Known Member
Someone should have told Sarah Palin, you don't actually need a passport to visit 'The Magic Kingdom'. It's not a real country.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
yes, but the same people, minus any experience of their own small corner of America, would be even LESS fit to be in charge, and it isn't their travelling that is the handicap, it's the dumbness they were born with (i.e. doesn't necessarily work in reverse)
dilute micro
esse quam videri
Ah but don't be inclined to believe that because someone has been in charge they're more fit than someone who hasn't. Sometimes dumb people with experience make it to the top.
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
I'm not, and the current incumbent is the living proof of that. What I AM pointing out is that if you have two equally intelligent and perceptive individuals, the one with considerable first hand experience of the wider wolrd and how it works will prolly have a better grip on international affairs than one who's spent 99.5% of her time in Moosefreeze, Alaska
You sure about that one? I'm scratching my head but I can't think of many examples from recent history.
Johnny Canuck3
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Is this what father time does to the JCs of the internet board community?
Where is the dogged JC of long ago? It's not the same anymore.
I'm trying to get more work done these days.
Maybe father time has something to do with that.
dilute micro
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A passport and a visit is what we're talking about, not considerable first hand experience. And as I have pointed out - even first hand experience is no guarantee.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
You sure about that one? I'm scratching my head but I can't think of many examples from recent history.
Yes I'm sure. You're agreeing with me.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
I'm trying to get more work done these days.
Maybe father time has something to do with that.
Well get a case of Red Bull dammit.
Keep posting truisms so vague and meaningless nobody could possibly disagree with them, and I'll keep the agreements coming!
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Well get a case of Red Bull dammit.
You sure you want that? If I start paying attention, I'll be taking you out with one hand tied behind my back.
Dilute_micro,
I'm not alleging that the mere possession of a passport automatically makes you better informed about the world. I'm simply pointing out that this is a thread about Palin and Biden, so you might - just might - want to apply your generalized statements to the topic at hand. If you don't, then that's fine, but don't expect to convince anybody of squat, 'kay?
I'm not alleging that the mere possession of a passport automatically makes you better informed about the world. I'm simply pointing out that this is a thread about Palin and Biden, so you might - just might - want to apply your generalized statements to the topic at hand. If you don't, then that's fine, but don't expect to convince anybody of squat, 'kay?
dilute micro
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Of course it's fine. Fyi it's okay to apply generalized thinking, figure it out there first and then apply it to specifics. But you've got to figure it out.
I bid you peace.
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