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moono said:
Or your logic. Have it your own way.
no you are seekign to have it your way by dilerbrately narrowing the field of discussion down to a pointless semantic debate about the nature of anti sematism and whether this can been seen as what is generally discribed as rasicm because there is a tentative connection between the indigious peoples of the area and the majority of the occupiying countries ...

it doesn't wash...

it is racism and it is indemic with in the IDF who are the foot soilders in a literal as well as a metaphorical sense for israel.

they are just carrying out orders etc...

but more widely there has to be the political will to enact this... menaign that the state of israel is racict in it's actions...
 
You think it's racist discrimination, I think it's sectarian discrimination. Both are illegal under international law.
 
moono said:
You think it's racist discrimination, I think it's sectarian discrimination. Both are illegal under international law.
fair point ,

i think you'd be wise to update your personal model of racism tho :)

for what it's worth

there is only one race and that's the human race, the rest of the different types of humanity are merely cultures there is no significant or definable biological sub species of human which could accurately be described as a race.

The term race was a victorian invention to justfy segreigation and limitation of blacks and other imigrants, along with eugenics and other concepts now disregarded.

were we to attempt to set up some definitive cross sectioning of humanity, it would be more approprate to say they are phenotypes that races and even then this presupposes some definable genetic differences which aren't really there...

so the best we can come up with is that different races are defined by their cultrally accepted norms and practices; ergo a refuseal to accept another culturally accept norms and practices would be in reality racism. (it should prolly be a good idea to scrap the concept of racism as it promotes the concep of seperate disperate 'races' which of course as described above is rubbish and reffer to this more accurately as culture clash/cultural imperialism/enforced dominence - this is prolly a different thread)

ergo as short hand when i say racist i am really saying cultral imperialism and enforced cultural dominence, it's short hand, i'm not using old versions of a victorian based eugenices formed concept of a different tribe being a different race... or the same tribe being the same race...

ergo it's racism in my book, possibley with the above clarification you'd also concere?
 
i think you'd be wise to update your personal model of racism tho
Thank you for the thought but I've already been brought up to date by the Genetic Mapping Project and genetic paleantology. As much as I detest having the Fat Assassin as a brother I must learn to accept it.
 
moono said:
Thank you for the thought but I've already been brought up to date by the Genetic Mapping Project and genetic paleantology. As much as I detest having the Fat Assassin as a brother I must learn to accept it.
wella s descibed above thecnically he's everyones brother ;)
 
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