Oxford University student avoids custodial sentence after stabbing boyfriend

[imposs1904]

Lavinia.

What a fucking horrible name.

with a name like that, she has suffered enough.

 

[DotCommunist]

bow you going to stab with thon item? You could leave a really nasty sure-to-scar hard to stitch slash wound, but stab?

 

[DotCommunist]

I realise I'm missing the point here but then so is that knife

 

[trabuquera]

Better hope nobody hacks her off (ha) when she's "in theatre" during her future massively prestigious career in heart surgery. Surgeons are notorious for arrogance and hair-trigger tempers anyway so I am not sure how safe I'd feel with her once she's been equipped with a proper cutting implement.

 

[Fez909]

Tricky one for me. I'm of the opinion that prison is shit and should only be used to house the most dangerous people who need to be kept away from everyone else for safety reasons.

On the surface, you'd say she's not one of those people. Although she has just stabbed someone...

And on the other hand, if it was me who stabbed my girlfriend, I'd be in prison now, my career being irrelevant. Aaaand, she's already fucked:

Mitigating, James Sturman QC said his client’s dreams of becoming a surgeon were “almost impossible” as her conviction would have to be disclosed.

So, she won't get a career because she'd have to disclose. In the UK, at least. She can fuck off back to Italy, presumably, and work there. Why can't she go to jail now, and resume her degree abroad when she leaves the country after she's out?

She has so many options compared not just to other convicted criminals, but to the general public, that I wouldn't feel it was in any way harsh to jail her.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pedantry it may be, but wholly necessary, I think

we'll have to agree to disagree then

 

[mrs quoad]

with a name like that, she has suffered enough.

Why does Lavinia Woodward have two Ds in her name?

Because SHUT THE FUCK UP OR ILL STAB YOU, CUNT!



(I am now tempted to call our next cat Lavinia Woowar, mind.)

 

[Pickman's model]

Tricky one for me. I'm of the opinion that prison is shit and should only be used to house the most dangerous people who need to be kept away from everyone else for safety reasons.

On the surface, you'd say she's not one of those people. Although she has just stabbed someone...

And on the other hand, if it was me who stabbed my girlfriend, I'd be in prison now, my career being irrelevant. Aaaand, she's already fucked:
So, she won't get a career because she'd have to disclose. In the UK, at least. She can fuck off back to Italy, presumably, and work there. Why can't she go to jail now, and resume her degree abroad when she leaves the country after she's out?

She has so many options compared not just to other convicted criminals, but to the general public, that I wouldn't feel it was in any way harsh to jail her.

My dreams of being a lottery winner would be dashed if I were sent to prison, your honour

 

[Idris2002]

Amongst other medics, surgeons have a reputation for having nasty tempers. So, a surgeon with an actual conviction for assault with a deadly weapon should fit right in.

Or be a menace to her colleagues and patients alike.

Actually, I initially meant to write that as a joke, but actually she should have her career plans ruined, given that she's shown she's not a fit person to be involved in medical treatment and care, with or without knives.

And I see trabuquera has beat me to it.

 

[Spymaster]

Isn't a criminal conviction for wounding likely to fuck up her prospects of being a doctor regardless of whether or not she does time?

 

[Pickman's model]

Isn't a criminal conviction for wounding likely to fuck up her prospects of being a doctor regardless of whether or not she does time?

Don't see why, if she becomes a surgeon she'll be chopping people up, knifing them goes with the job

 

[Idris2002]

Isn't a criminal conviction for wounding likely to fuck up her prospects of being a doctor regardless of whether or not she does time?

You'd hope so. The Irish medical profession has a dysfunctional streak ten miles wide, but I recall a case in Castlebar where a young doc was kicked out of the profession completely for breaching patient confidentiality. What would happen with a case like that in UK, though, I don't know.

 

[redsquirrel]

Isn't a criminal conviction for wounding likely to fuck up her prospects of being a doctor regardless of whether or not she does time?

I think that's just a Guardian fuck up, the Telegraph makes exactly that point

However, she is unlikely to be able to become a surgeon as her criminal conviction would have to be disclosed, said Jim Sturman QC, defending.

 

[treelover]

(from here)


Like you do.

Looking at social media images, she gets on private planes, has a boat, etc.

 

[Smangus]

She sounds like a psycho any how. Counselling and treatment would seem to be a better bet than prison in this case, regardless of income etc. How that affects your job career prospects should be reflected by the result of the treatment. Although obvs you are more likely to go to jail if you are BAME or of a lower income group.

 

[Idris2002]

Looking at social media images, she gets on private planes, has a boat, etc.

I doubt if she was ever really serious about a medical career anyway.

It used to be that anyone could study at the College of Surgeons in Dublin, so long as they had the money to pay. They had to stop that in the 1980s, because they were getting people who were totally unfit for, and unsuited to, being doctors.

 

[Yossarian]

bow you going to stab with thon item? You could leave a really nasty sure-to-scar hard to stitch slash wound, but stab?

But who knows what kind of fancy bread knives people that posh are using on their hard-crusted artisan loaves - this one's called the Miyabi MCT, it costs $500 and it could probably do some damage.

 

[kabbes]

But who knows what kind of fancy bread knives people that posh are using on their hard-crusted artisan loaves - this one's called the Miyabi MCT, it costs $500 and it could probably do some damage.

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That's a kitchen knife, not a bread knife. It would be hopeless for cutting bread.

 

[Yossarian]

That's a kitchen knife, not a bread knife. It would be hopeless for cutting bread.

Oops, wrong image - tip still looks pretty sharp on the bread one though.

 

[kabbes]

Oops, wrong image - tip still looks pretty sharp on the bread one though.

Yes, not bad. You wouldn't be able to plunge it deep into somebody though, at least not without their cooperation.

 

[emanymton]

Yes, not bad. You wouldn't be able to plunge it deep into somebody though, at least not without their cooperation.

Don't know, if you held it the 'wrong' way round and stabbed upwards maybe?

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, not bad. You wouldn't be able to plunge it deep into somebody though, at least not without their cooperation.

Oh I think you would, if you gave it a moment's thought before striking

 

[kabbes]

Don't know, if you held it the 'wrong' way round and stabbed upwards maybe?

It looks a bit pointy and all but it's still not really conducive to stabbing, is it? The point is all the wrong shape to open anything up very easily and then the serrations are going to cause friction. You're going to have a tough time stabbing a piece of paper with that, let alone something as tough as a human body.

 

[Smangus]

It's more for dismembering the body, post kill.

 

[Raheem]

Yes, not bad. You wouldn't be able to plunge it deep into somebody though, at least not without their cooperation.

She's training to be a surgeon, though, so she's basically a posh butcher.

 

[Pickman's model]

She's training to be a surgeon, though, so she's basically a posh butcher.

You'd hope a surgeon's patients recovered. A butcher's by contrast...

 

[Pickman's model]

It looks a bit pointy and all but it's still not really conducive to stabbing, is it? The point is all the wrong shape to open anything up very easily and then the serrations are going to cause friction. You're going to have a tough time stabbing a piece of paper with that, let alone something as tough as a human body.

Breadknives likely good for slitting throats tho

And if push came to shove I don't think you'd have a problem thrusting that into someone's belly and up under the ribs

 

[kabbes]

She's training to be a surgeon, though, so she's basically a posh butcher.

That doesn't mean she can push what is basically a blunt object into solid flesh.

I'm willing to bet good money it was not a breadknife. Not even a posh one.

 

[Orang Utan]

That doesn't mean she can push what is basically a blunt object into solid flesh.

I'm willing to bet good money it was not a breadknife. Not even a posh one.

Knowing students, they're rubbish at washing up, yet ingenious with coming up with alternative kitchen utensils when the real ones are floating in a pool of rice and pasta detritus in the kitchen sink.
So she probably tried to stab him with a spatula or soup spoon.

 

[DotCommunist]