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Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by Lord Camomile, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Hey, stop stepping on my razor sharp satire! :mad: :(
     
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  2. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    That's a good point. If you removed all the buses would it then become another car park full of stationary taxis & cars?
     
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  3. se5

    se5 Well-Known Member

    But I guess thats part of the plan - if they pedestrianise they can make a better environment in which to shop which in turn will attract more people. Hopefully the council (or whoever manages it) will have scope to ensure that there is a good range of shops in terms of types and sizes
     
  4. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    probably the new west end company or the oxford street association
     
  5. se5

    se5 Well-Known Member

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  6. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Yes that's largely the point I was making. Ox St. couldn't be much worse these days so pedestrianisation could be a good thing.
     
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  7. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    Rather depends how the new open space is designed in terms of pedestrian flow. Have you tried pushing a buggy through a big railway station concourse at rush hour ? (Or toward the entrances to the underground at Oxford Circus at rush hour ?) Done badly it might very well be worse than at present.
     
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  8. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Oxford street seems to me to be even more crowded than it ever has been. I don't really know why, but it is.

    I've been around there when marches have been on and the road closed and it is considerably better. I support pedestrianisation there in general, but obviously it needs to be done in a way that still makes it accessible, as people have mentioned.
     
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  9. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    People forget traders need access to Dixons
     
  10. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    This is what it should be like but with a tram. Kärntner Straße in Vienna.

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  11. hot air baboon

    hot air baboon Well-Known Member

    there's a Tesla shop down there with a Tesla car sitting in it.....with not much room for anything else......bit incongruous alongside the rows of tat merchants

    ....pfft....19th century technology - lets embrace the 1950's....

    mono.JPG
     
  12. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    There was a semi-serious proposal for an elevated suspension railway in London a few years ago. There was a video for it and everything. Can't find it now.
     
  13. hot air baboon

    hot air baboon Well-Known Member

    ...you won't be jumping off between stops like on the Routemaster though... :(
     
  14. Winot

    Winot I wholeheartedley agree with your viewpoint

    Could you not terminate all those routes at the point at which they enter/exit Oxford St and then have a simple shuttle service going up and down Oxford St to link them? That should be feasible with the hopper ticket being introduced.

    Or is it too much of a problem turning the buses round?
     
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  15. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    It's a safe bet to assume that this is exactly what they'll do (with a handful of routes continuing to run through on the parallel roads). The hopper will make it all possible, but they'll have to build a pretty big bus station at either end to do the transfers. There's enough space at Marble Arch. At the other end you'd have to do it on the loop round Cetrepoint
     
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  16. They could turn Marble Arch in to a bus turntable, like this one for trains:

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    And make it out of Lego too :cool:
     
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  17. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    hopefully trapping the residents inside.
     
  18. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    don't worry, it will be done badly
     
  19. BigMoaner

    BigMoaner Don't kill the lion

    post of the week.
     
  20. Artaxerxes

    Artaxerxes Well-Known Member

    Rest assured, there will be plenty of cocks on Oxford Street, and always will be.
     
  21. mather

    mather Well-Known Member

    A better idea would be to pedestrianise Oxford Street and have a tunnel pass running parallel under it. That would benefit both pedestrians and drivers plus all the work needed to construct it would create new jobs too.
     
  22. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    I think CrossRail has been enough tunnelling thank you very much. It's taken out whole swathes of Oxford St. Enough is enough.
     
  23. pengaleng

    pengaleng Lil' pengaleng PhD. another handsome boy graduate.

    how are disabled people gonna get from one end to the other?
     
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  24. hash tag

    hash tag Pedicabo omnes

    I see this has popped up again and the consultation is open until Have your say on the transformation of Oxford Street - Transport for London - Citizen Space
    https://www.london.gov.uk/moderngov/documents/s57754/Oxford Street.pdf
    Living streets say a ped is hit once every 6 days! Consultation on Oxford Street pedestrianisation begins
    It is only for the Western end of Oxford St. I wonder, should it be for the entire length and would it be an idea to have a tram, no other transport, running down the middle.
    It will piss off the good neighbours of Wigmore Street and the like but it has to be a good thing.
     
  25. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Oxford-Street-2-col_2-1704x1680.jpg Oxford-Street-1-hero-852x479.jpg

    They're aiming for Christmas 2018 for an early opening of the intitial Western section (Oxford Circus to Selfridges/M&S). Just in time for Elizabeth Line Crossrail. No extensive paving works, as you can tell in the concept images, but one step closer to:

    Buses will be rerouted via Wigmore Street and Cavendish Square
     
  26. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    I went to the Royal Parks Half Marathon last month and so was around that area particularly the Marble Arch corner. I suppose there were a few road closures nr Buckingham Palace but nothing out of the ordinary. Anyway traffic was choka. The point being that all these schemes rely on there being less traffic in the area.

    I'm really not sure how you achieve that? The people in those cars are people who just won't travel any other way if you get my drift. Closing some streets will simply push traffic elsewhere or will they simply avoid the area and that's not really the idea beind the scheme. They want more shoppers to compete with Westfield/Online.
     
  27. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    Hop along no doubt
     
  28. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    teuchter could you please counter this on my behalf; I'm a bit busy. Thank you.
     

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