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Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020

Discussion in 'London and the South East' started by Lord Camomile, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Oxford Street to be pedestrianised by 2020 - BBC News
    As a lifelong pedestrian this sounds great, but will it be practical? Where's all that traffic going to go?
    :hmm:
     
  2. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    Side roads - which are already more than congested enough.

    I'd be happier about Oxford St being pedestiranised if there was a shopmobility scheme in place, but there isn't.
     
  3. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    can't think of a shop on oxford street selling stuff which isn't available, better and generally cheaper, elsewhere.
     
  4. Greebo

    Greebo 'scuse me, Mrs May, can I have my country back? R.I.P.

    That's beside the point. I demand the facilities to let people who can't walk far without pain and/or fatigue to be as annoyed and outraged by the overpricing, snooty staff etc there as everyone else.
     
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  5. bi0boy

    bi0boy Power User

    iirc all the cross streets will still be open to taxis.
     
  6. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    I have to say I avoid the place as much as humanly possible, but mobility shouldn't be a barrier to hell on earth, should anyone wish to go there.
     
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  7. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist my world is fire and blood

    that should help me keep the wolf from the door
     
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  8. Sea Star

    Sea Star undead undead undead

    i haven't shopped on Oxford Street in over 20 years and yet i still keep finding myself having to navigate along parts of it for all sorts of other reasons.
     
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  9. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    yeh, much the same.
     
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  10. moon

    moon Happy Happy Jo Wonderland

    The place is just so plastic selling mostly plastic too..
     
  11. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    in the 1890s traffic rattled along oxford street at more than twice the velocity it does now
     
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  12. EastEnder

    EastEnder Brixton Barnacle

    I can't imagine how anyone with mobility impairments could ever cope with Oxford street - I find the crowds completely hideous & I'm able bodied!

    You couldn't pay me to go shopping in central London...:eek:
     
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  13. Sea Star

    Sea Star undead undead undead

    for an autistic person it's nigh on unbearable - though i coped better when i was younger.
     
  14. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    All the traffic would have to use Brook Street and Wigmore Street. I suspect they'd have to make those roads Red Routes.

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  15. wtfftw

    wtfftw Well-Known Member

    In some ways it's a lot easier than Westfield type places.
     
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  16. EastEnder

    EastEnder Brixton Barnacle

    I loathe it, really can't stand such congested areas, makes me want to run away screaming... only I can't cos there's fucking people everywhere! :eek:
     
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  17. wtfftw

    wtfftw Well-Known Member

    Yup.
     
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  18. Sea Star

    Sea Star undead undead undead

    yep. Cycling makes it all a bit more bearable for me as the roads are usually less crowded. Sometimes Oxford Street is so jammed though that even cycling is difficult.
     
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  19. Lurdan

    Lurdan old wave

    As a teenager back in December 1971 I took part in a demo which attempted to close off the Hyde Park end of Oxford Street and have an xmas party, the purpose being to support a demand for the street to be pedestrianized. It was an entirely unsuccessful albeit quite educational farce. Over the years since I've watched the various schemes to reduce types of traffic, enlarge pavements, change road crossings and so on with an interested although fairly sceptical eye.

    I guess if you can't avoid going there fully pedestrianizing it may have benefits, although large pedestrian spaces can just replace one set of difficulties getting about with other kinds.

    But frankly the way I feel about the place these days I'd much rather brick it up.
     
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  20. DJWrongspeed

    DJWrongspeed radio eros

    It'll all be in the detail. How many roads with traffic allowed to cross over it will have a big affect. You can't help but feel that it will only work by reducing existing car/taxi traffic in central London. Cross rail will help but it's already very accessible by buses & tubes.

    It will work if they have a disabled accessible electric tram going along the entire length.

    Kärntner Straße in Vienna is a good example of a pedestrianised central city shopping street. It puts London to shame.
     
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  21. Ted Striker

    Ted Striker Foot's on the other hand

    Once again Norwich leading the country in commercial town planning.
     

  22. Divert the buses and shit from a tourist hellhole street and in to the heart of Mayfair? Really?

    Surely the answer would be to not have so many bus routes converge on Oxford Street in the first place?
     
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  23. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    Yeah that too. There's something like 15 routes that go down Oxford Street
     
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  24. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    i am not sure the solutions have yet been completely arrived at
     
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  25. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    very good. but what would you propose where your map falls short, namely between tottenham court road and oxford circus, which is supposed to be pedestrianised first?
     
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  26. Lord Camomile

    Lord Camomile Lemonade socialist

    Wait, wait, wait... They've made a promise without also making a plan? No, these are professionals, they just wouldn't do that.
     
  27. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

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  28. Crispy

    Crispy The following psytrance is baṉned: All

    There have been loads of internal studies at TfL on the topic. They don't have *a* plan, they have loads and they just need to choose one.
     
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  29. I'd like to be there when they tell the billionaires that the area of Mayfair where they spent £100m on pad will be permanently gridlocked with buses. That would be an interesting meeting.
     
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  30. skyscraper101

    skyscraper101 0891 50 50 50

    Oxford Street is pointless traveling by vehicle through during daylight hours if you need to get anywhere faster than walking pace. Plus with the scrapping of conductors on the routemasters, there'll soon be no option to jump on or off, and its streets like Oxford St where you'd most want to be able to do that.

    Also, apart from maybe Selfridges, Oxford St doesn't have anything of note these days that you couldn't get elsewhere in a much less stressful environment. There are nuff crap tacky shops selling phone cases and cheap bags, the rest is just what you'd find in any medium size town. Even the massive HMV which used to be a mecca for me in the 90s is gone, now a Sports Direct. And the lure of lure Tottenham Court Rd's electronics stores, and Soho's record stores are a distant memory as they've all but gone too.
     

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