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TheHoodedClaw said:
I must confess that I thought that Ted Morgan's vast biography of Burroughs Literary Outlaw was much more interesting than anything Burroughs himself actually wrote. An interesting chap, though.
Yes, i agree with you very much on that i.e. that Ted Morgan's book is very good (altho i still think NL is superb and one of the best bits of writing i've had the pleasure of). The books of Burrough's letters are well worth looking at as well, very revealing and much more clarity of thought.
 
Brainaddict said:
I see your Foucault's Pendulum, Zen and the Art.., Confederacy of Dunces, and raise you Midnight's Children.

*hissing at the controversial choice*

But really, Salman Rushdie is very clever but he has nothing to say.

The Grimus was okay, Midnight's Children I couldn't read.

the theme with most of these books is nothing ever seems to actually happen. Things might be alluded to in an obtuse way, but mostly it just seems that if anything did happen it was off-stage.

On The Road is another one. I read nearly all of it then put it down with 10 pages to go when I realised that it wouldn't end, it would just stop.
 
Barking_Mad said:
Ah yes, Ann Rand - I wonder what was going on here when people voted for their favourite novel then?

http://www.randomhouse.com/modernlibrary/100bestnovels.html

The US and Canada are the only two countries where Rand's books are popular. She isn't taken seriously anywhere else. Though her former acolyte, Alan Greenspan, has become some sort of economic high priest. What's more baffling is how many world leaders listen to this crackpot.
 
AnnO'Neemus said:
Anything by James Joyce.
Although to be fair to the pretentious, elitist cunt, no one could possibly actually live up to the ratings given him by semi-erect literature professors.
 
gabi said:
Has anyone mentioned On the Road yet? Tedious bullshit.

I read some of this but gave up, I tired of it very quickly. I mostly read claisscs and am usually rather selective about what I read. This means I'm rarely disappointed but with On the Road I felt bored.
 
In defence of James Joyce

The Dubliners is a collection of simple, well-written stories.

A Portrait of the Artist is also deceptively simple, really, but with a much stronger poetic sensibility - not only the ideas, but the way the words describing the ideas fit together is becoming more important, and he's starting to see hwo the two combine. Also, the best description of the terrifying effect of a Catholic education I've ever read - it's worth it for that alone.

Ulysses: First, this book has been ruined for many by being studied academically. Nothing kills the enjoyment of literature quite like literary criticism. Second, it is essentially a poetry collection. You can linger and savour individual allusions, paragraphs and sections as more-or-less self-contained wholes. I think if you embark on Ulysses - I only finished it second-time-round - don't feel under pressure to finish it. Take something from each section. Read other books while you read this one - in one big lump, it's quite hard to digest, but as a series of snacks, it isn't. I think the perfect way to read Ulysses would have been in the monthly serialisation that was how it first appeared. I was inspired by Ulysses when I first started trying to write fiction. It showed me that there are other ways of doing things - that you're allowed to do absolutely anything you like with that page. Maybe it is more of a writer's book in that sense.

Finnegan's Wake. I didn't get past about page 10 of this book, so I cannot defend it.
 
littlebabyjesus said:
Finnegan's Wake. I didn't get past about page 10 of this book, so I cannot defend it.


One of my (Eng Lit) university tutors told me that to understand all of Finnegan's Wake you would need to read seven languages including Sanskrit. :D She had read it, but I think it took her four years or something!
 
Couldn't get started with James Joyce. Couldn't get started with 'crime and punishment'. Didn't like 'the rum diaries' ... Definitely a non starter with Thomas Hardy (dull) Shakespeare (overrated).
 
Fledgling said:
I read some of this but gave up, I tired of it very quickly. I mostly read claisscs and am usually rather selective about what I read. This means I'm rarely disappointed but with On the Road I felt bored.

I love On The Road.
 
_angel_ said:
Couldn't get started with James Joyce. Couldn't get started with 'crime and punishment'. Didn't like 'the rum diaries' ... Definitely a non starter with Thomas Hardy (dull) Shakespeare (overrated).

Did you try Dubliners? I thought that a reletavily accessible piece, and quite enjoyable
 
Jonothan.Livingtone.Bastard.Seagull:mad:

ON the road ? - very much of its time - hard to digest these days I suppsoe - bit of a let down

I thought Amierican Psyco was utterly apalling when I skimmed it the first time, bored with the gore fest & goths wanking off about it . I re-read is a couple of years later and it made sense. It was actually read more like a black comedy - things change after a re -read soemtimes
 
Blagsta said:
Seconded.

thirded. (on the road)

I read to kill a mocking bird a year or so ago, and thought it was brilliant, but, I'm fairly sure if I'd read it when I was much younger I'd have thought it was shit.
 
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