overpopulation? What is the answer?

[gorski]

Hey, gorski, What part of the non-Anglo-American world's philosophy should I study if I want to make sense of this post?

Critical Theory, Praxis School of Philosophy in particular. But has no meaning without Classical German Philosophy [Kant - Hegel], which leans on emancipatory Philosophical developments spanning from Ancient Greeks, to the Italians and the French, Russian, German, British etc. socialists and so on and so forth... There you must know a lot about Marx's critical understanding of Hegel, which he grounded differently before and after having studied classical English national economy and having re-read Hegel, now understanding him much better...

As for the rolleyes in my nick - up yours, too...

 

[gorski]

Hair splitter. But then BA is following me around even though I've put the tosser on ignore.

Herr Schplitter, you mean...

 

[nino_savatte]

Das Kapital is both a philosophical and economic text since it uses both disciplines. While Marx may not have called himself either a philosopher or an economist, he was certainly both. Though, as far as economics is concerned, he was more of an political economist.

It takes a philosopher to critique philosophy.

 

[nino_savatte]

Herr Schplitter, you mean...

Jawöhl, Herr Oberst!

 

[david dissadent]

I think if more people learned philosophy we wouldn't be suffering from such a dearth of ideas and a preponderance of lazy thinking. To work out solutions for problems one needs some form of philosophical thought/discussion.

It is no wonder that we live in a country where thinking (as well as learning and erudition) is looked upon with such disdain, when so many dismiss philosophy as 'useless'.

Marx was a philosopher, was he not?

You seem to have nothing to say about resource limitation and food distribution.

 

[gorski]

Don't look at me, nino - tell it to him... He comes in with this enormous chip on his shoulder, ordering everybody around, very much Prussian like... Hence the "butcher" nick as a very appropriate picture of his leanings...

 

[gorski]

You seem to have nothing to say about resource limitation and food distribution.

And you seem not to have a critically minded bone in your body...

 

[nino_savatte]

You seem to have nothing to say about resource limitation and food distribution.

I was dealing with your 'point' about philosophy but there is a wider remit to it: the contempt for learning. Sorry if you wanted a free ride on that one.

 

[david dissadent]

And you seem not to have a critically minded bone in your body...

Do you actualy have a clue why food prices have gone so high this year?

 

[david dissadent]

I was dealing with your 'point' about philosophy but there is a wider remit to it: the contempt for learning. Sorry if you wanted a free ride on that one.

Contempt for waffling perhaps. Do you have any veiws about the current problems you would care to share with us?

 

[rover07]

Because the supermarkets need to make more profits...

 

[nino_savatte]

Contempt for waffling perhaps. Do you have any veiws about the current problems you would care to share with us?

Life must be an easy ride when you lack the ability to think critically.

Do you think you should be allowed to make ignorant comments about philosophy without anyone challenging you? Oh! The arrogance!

 

[gorski]

Marx was a critic of philosophy not a philosopher. In the same way that he was a critic of economics, not an economist.

Sure, if you wanna go into the nitty-gritty, yes, it's correct to say that. Marx stopped using it for himself and what he is doing after a certain point in his development.

However, he declared himself a Hegelian, when a great man needed to be saved from vulgar materialists and savages of all sorts. So, he knew he was nothing without Philosophy and didn't hide it.

He was a Philosopher, too, if you wish. He continued to be one. He wanted a particular Philosophy himself.

The ambitious to "abolish" Philosophy comes from Fichte's dictum, of course.

But it would have been built into us and our society making us all into Philosophers.

So, you're just trumpeting your own "greatness" in all this - and not unexpectedly, either...

 

[david dissadent]

Life must be an easy ride when you lack the ability to think critically.

Do you think you should be allowed to make ignorant comments about philosophy without anyone challenging you? Oh! The arrogance!

Sorry I withdraw my criticism. Philosophy does feed people.

Happy now.

 

[nino_savatte]

Do you actualy have a clue why food prices have gone so high this year?

How about you? Or is this a rhetorical question?

 

[david dissadent]

Sure, if you wanna go into the nitty-gritty, yes, it's correct to say that. Marx stopped using it for himself and what he is doing after a certain point in his development.

However, he declared himself a Hegelian, when a great man needed to be saved from vulgar materialists and savages of all sorts. So, he knew he was nothing without Philosophy and didn't hide it.

He was a Philosopher, too, if you wish. He continued to be one. He wanted a particular Philosophy himself.

The ambitious to "abolish" Philosophy comes from Fichte's dictum, of course.

But it would have been built into us and our society making us all into Philosophers.

So, you're just trumpeting your own "greatness" in all this - and not unexpectedly, either...

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=27

 

[gorski]

Do you actualy have a clue why food prices have gone so high this year?

Eh, go play with the other kids...

 

[nino_savatte]

Sorry I withdraw my criticism. Philosophy does feed people.

Happy now.

Fucks sake, you're a real cock and no mistake.

 

[david dissadent]

How about you? Or is this a rhetorical question?

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=225575

 

[gorski]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=27

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Jeez, what a twat!]

 

[nino_savatte]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=225575

Sorry but that isn't a reply to my question.

Care to have another stab at it?

You said

Do you actualy have a clue why food prices have gone so high this year?

I said

How about you? Or is this a rhetorical question?

 

[gorski]

Sorry I withdraw my criticism. Philosophy does feed people.

Happy now.

Criticism? You flatter yourself, sir!!! Wildly!!! You wouldn't kniow what that is even if it hit you over the had with a hammer! Hence your utterly uncritical regurgitation of this nonsense...

 

[david dissadent]

Sorry but that isn't a reply to my question.

Care to have another stab at it?

You said


I said

I gave an opinion that summerised some of that thread on the first page.

Corn has been going up in price over the past few years due to increased consumption of the crop by the US ethanol industry and as an animal feed in the increasing meat diet of Asia. The great droughts in Australia and the south west US has also taken alot of corn of the market.

Increasing demand for corn has lead to less and less wheat being planted which this year cumulated in the shortages of wheat that has seen the price rocket up. Wheat is now being heavily planted, up about 6% land usage. However poor weather in wheat producers is already threatening crops yeilds.

Rice crops in India have been devistated by a rat explosion that is related to a rare occurence. Rice is largely unaffected by the biofuel mania.

There is overwhemingly sufficient calories available for everyone in the world, however how we choose to use, as a substitute for oil and to convert to meat is what is causing the shortages. This means where people cannot or are temporarily unable to grow sufficient food and do not have enough cash to compete with price rises, hence they will not have enough food.

Another factor in price increases is the insane rise in the price of oil ($106 second time Ive written it today and Ive had to add a dollar to the all time record) which affects both the cost of diesel and the cost of nitrate feritliser and the recordbreaking collapse in the price of the dollar meanign nations that reliant on there dollar reserves to buy oil and food are being tightly squeezed.

Moreover as the cost increases and aid budgets do not, the same dollars buy less food for more needy.

Thead covering this
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=225575

So your whole point was moot to begin with.

 

[nino_savatte]

So your whole point was moot to begin with.

I think not, O Arrogant One. You asked that question, now was it rhetorical or not?

 

[gorski]

http://www.new-agri.co.uk/01-6/focuson/focuson8.html

 

[nino_savatte]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=225575

I remember that thread btw, it was one of those where dissent was verboten. On that occasion, I can remember making a point about our productive capacities being diverted into the production of plants for bio fuels, among other things. DD ignored it to pursue some wild thought in his head.

 

[david dissadent]

I think not, O Arrogant One. You asked that question, now was it rhetorical or not?

Do you have any opinions to off on why food prices have increased this year. It is not rhetorical.

The ad hominems are a tad tedious but do carry on if it entertains yourself.

 

[nino_savatte]

Do you have any opinions to off on why food prices have increased this year. It is not rhetorical.

The ad hominems are a tad tedious but do carry on if it entertains yourself.

Your arrogance is quite tedious. You seem to have a problem with certain modes of thought that don't correspond to your own.

How about having a look at that other thread instead of asking stupid questions?

 

[nino_savatte]

You ignored this DD. Why?
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=6605900&postcount=26

it was a reply to one of your posts on that thread. It seems to me that you want all discussion to conform to your terms.

 

[nino_savatte]

Are you an economist, DD?