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Out with the Old... Network Rail tell businesses to vacate Atlantic Road arches

teuchter

je suis teuchter
I too have been pondering this each time I walk past. Will be interested in the reply.

I couldn’t see a heritage conservation statement on the planning database, but it’s not unusual for repair work to be done in traditional techniques and materials but not artificially aged to match the old, the rationale being that it will age over time. There might also be conditions against using reclaimed materials on a structure such as a railway viaduct.

If it has been stated - say - that only unsound bricks will be removed and replaced with new London stocks with weatherstruck lime mortar joints at the line of the original wall face, then the contractor might have some defence, since this looks to me to have been the approach. It then becomes more a question of the quality of the workmanship.

None of this means I like the look of it (I don’t), but seamlessness might never have been the intent.
I think those repairs are independent of the arch refurb works.
They've been doing them all along the viaducts in the area, and mostly in the same incongruous style. For example if you walk along Milkwood road at the back of Herne Hill station you'll see quite a few bits at eye level.
 

Jimbeau

Lurker
I think those repairs are independent of the arch refurb works.
They've been doing them all along the viaducts in the area, and mostly in the same incongruous style. For example if you walk along Milkwood road at the back of Herne Hill station you'll see quite a few bits at eye level.
I think that’s likely. They’ll conceive of patching the viaducts as part of railway infrastructure rather than as streetscape. They’re not listed so unlikely to have a special conservation strategy beyond new-for-old replacement of degraded material.
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
I think that’s likely. They’ll conceive of patching the viaducts as part of railway infrastructure rather than as streetscape. They’re not listed so unlikely to have a special conservation strategy beyond new-for-old replacement of degraded material.
They arent listed but these arches are in a conservation area.
 

editor

hiraethified
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Well, this is interesting: Anthony Thomas (aka Antic, Dogstar owners) want a change of use on THREE of the arches from retail into - yes, you've guessed it - bar/restaurant/pub use.

Unit 11 is one labelled 'newly refurbished, unit 26 is part of a 'cathedral unit' with arch 22 and I'm not sure which unit is 23.
 

editor

hiraethified
So if this goes ahead along with Hondo's plans to turn Pope's Road into a monster yuppie booze/food emporium, Brixton will truly become the next Camden.
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
FB_IMG_1564603303268.jpg I looked up the application. Could not find justification for change of use just plans.

Looks to me that Antic have got the whole of the inner bit of the arches now. So have increased the space from what they had before.
 

Gramsci

Well-Known Member
Didn't council/network rail say that they were gonna preserve existing ratios of retail:restaurants and bars
That's what I thought.

I don't understand why on the planning application there is no document justifiying the change of use.

Usually on planning applications one finds a doc that says why the application should be given permission.

Unless I missed something.
 

Lambeth Boy

Active Member
I know for a fact that the carpetman at that same location begged NR for a change of use and to pay a higher rent if need be in order to adapt ( and stay in business ) but they flatly refused !!
 

newbie

undisambiguated
catching up... I'm curious as to what DIY stuff can't be bought at one or other of the places along Acre Lane. I can only offhand think of one bit of broken boiler I had to go all the way to Landor Rd to get, and that was at least 5 years ago. Otherwise Acre Lane everytime.
 

CH1

"Red Guard"(NLYL)
catching up... I'm curious as to what DIY stuff can't be bought at one or other of the places along Acre Lane. I can only offhand think of one bit of broken boiler I had to go all the way to Landor Rd to get, and that was at least 5 years ago. Otherwise Acre Lane everytime.
No boilers in Acre Lane for some time - Diamond Merchant has morphed into an upmarket charity shop combining Danish style neo-Starbuck Hygge coffee drinking and paper browsing with rather stylish secondhand stuff.

They have a charming name for this in Ghana - Obroni Wawoo [A white man has died]
 

editor

hiraethified
View attachment 179367 I looked up the application. Could not find justification for change of use just plans.

Looks to me that Antic have got the whole of the inner bit of the arches now. So have increased the space from what they had before.
So when those big notices on the refurbished units say, "former business returning" they omit to mention that it's actually just one former business that has bought up a number of units. Sneaky.
 

Lambeth Boy

Active Member
The old ‘ Brixton Tools ‘ in Station Road ( 1/2 a Arch as it’s not a through Arch ) is up to rent at £70k p.a + vat , rates , bid !
So that’s roughly £2,000 per week before you pay wages , electricity etc WOW only a Plc could afford that surely ?
 

shakespearegirl

just worked out taglines
I see that a new trendy fried chicken shop is opening at 3 Atlantic Road ( Old A & C deli Arch ) calling themselves ‘ Other side fried ‘ , looks like they also have outlets in Pop and Peckham Levels !
Welcome to Nu-Brixton the home of £10 burgers and £5 chips
they also have branches in Soho and Camden.

according to this - Other Side Fried to open first bricks and mortar site - they are only going to have 16 covers, gonna have to shift an awful lot of takeaway to pay the new NR level rents
 
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