Osama bin Laden May Have Chartered Saudi Flight Out of U.S. after 9/11

Discussion in 'Compendium Of Kerrrr-azy Conspiracies' started by wreckhead, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    okay wreckhead, I appreciate where you are at. But consider this - what seems sane, and what seems like bonkers insanity simply depends on where your tent is pitched. So what seems quite unremarkable to me may seem bonkers to you, and what seems unremarkable to you may seem bonkers to others. And there's other stuff which seems bonkers to me.

    The solution to all this is to recognise that this is all fine, free discussion is good, we are each just making up our own minds (well some of us are, anyway).
     
  2. axon

    axon Happy hour abuser

    No, the mistake is in your understanding the meaning of the word "or".

    For example the phrase "the plane was chartered by the Saudi royal family or Osama bin Laden" is not a statement that Osama bin laden was permitted to charter a plane. :D
     
  3. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    So... the FBI don't know? They cannot say that Osama Bin Laden didn't charter a plane out?

    Look how you are covering for them! That's programming for you! :p
     
  4. axon

    axon Happy hour abuser

    :D :D :D
    I've noticed that the FBI haven't stated that the pink unicorns on the far side of the moon didn't charter a plane. Why are they protecting the unicorns!

    tbh, I don't know whether Osama bin laden chartered a plane out of the US. But I do know that that document doesn't "state" (as you put it) that he did.
     
  5. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    What it says is that the FBI were investigating a flight which by their own admission may have been chartered by Osama himself - but instead of grounding it and giving all the occupants some 'extraordinary rendition' as one would expect, they had a quick peek at the luggage and waved it on its way!

    You find nothing amiss in this, and yet think I'm the one with the aburdities?

    I mean, who cares if Osama was on board or not, as long as he wasn't packing any contraband?
     
  6. axon

    axon Happy hour abuser

    Well I pretty sure Osama wasn't on board as that document says none of the passengers had known links to terrorism.

    I would be interested in why it states that the plane may have been chartered by Osama bin laden. Is this because they had some evidence to suggest this, or is it because Osama is a Saudi and here was a plane chartered by Saudi's taking people called bin Laden out of the country just after 911?

    Do you think that Osama bin laden and the US government were in on a plot?
     
  7. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    Oh well that's alright then, even if they caught a ride out of the country on Osama's plane, no link there!

    Did you know, as a point of interest, that the the FBI doesn't even mention 9/11 on the list of things OBL is wanted for?

    Stone me, you are actually thinking to ask a question of some sort. Careful now!

    I would prefer to think of it as the US government and their CIA agent Tim Osmond (google it) playing his role
     
  8. axon

    axon Happy hour abuser

    Dickhead. It wasn't Osama's plane, was it? See previous posts and return to go. I'm interested in these sorts of threads mainly for the reason here. The lack of critical thinking. The last post I pointed out that there is no evidence that Osama chartered the planes, and in the next few posts here you are ignoring this point and again jumping to the conclusion Osama bin Laden chartered the planes.
    Yes I did know that. I've read a lot since 911 happened, and it got my interest due to the idiocy and lack of critical thinking of certain members of the public. Did you know that Osama was already wanted by the US authorities for the 1993 WTC bombing and the Kenya embassy bombings? Therefore the fact that Osama was not on a wanted list for 911, 8 days after 911, I think he would have still been noticed as an "individual connected with terrorism" when the FBI searched and interviewed the passengers on the Saudi chartered planes. What do you think? Do you think that Osama bin Laden and the US government conspied together to make 911 happen?
     
  9. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    The lack of 'critical thinking' is all yours here.

    You assume that the FBI are doing their job properly, in order to reach the conclusion that they are doing their job properly!

    As you are interested in critical thinking, you will note that this is the fallacy known as begging the question

    And how you seem to think it's okay for the official story to be true and OBL not to be wanted for 9/11 is quite beyond me :confused:

    I've been heavily questioned on an El Al flight for simply having short hair and an arabic stamp in my passport. For others look arabic is quite enough... but the Bin Laden family fly out on Osama airlines and that's all okay? You couldn't make it up! :rolleyes:
     
  10. Dandred

    Dandred Mmmmm Beer!

    I wonder why this thread was started while most of the mods are away in Glastonbury? :cool:
     
  11. wreckhead

    wreckhead Well-Known Member

    I plead innocence! :)
     
  12. toggle

    toggle wobbly


    and the earlier spam fest
     
  13. axon

    axon Happy hour abuser

    Well, i think it is true that several terrorists flew planes into buildings on 9th sep 2001. I also think this is compatible with OBL not being on the wanted list for 911, what with him already being on the US's wanted listed for previous atrocities.

    And to correct you yet-a-fucking-again, there is no evidence that OBL chartered any planes (again your lack of the understanding of the word "or"). For the more retarted readers of the posts.....I think Jazzz chartered planes to fly Saudis out of the US. I have no evidence of this, but mere fact that I've stated it means it should be taken as true.

    And as we all know everybody with the name bin Laden obviously has the same ideological views as Osama and is a terrorist. Which they may be, but I prefer to relay on those old-fashioned quaint ideas of evidence. As much as you would seem to like it, I don't think that the West should imprison anyone with the same name as bin Laden.

    ETA If you believe Osam bin Laden charted a plane to get people out of the US surely you believe it was OBL AND the US government that were resposible for 911. Is this what you believe?
     
  14. London_Calling

    London_Calling Pleasant and unpatronising

    Another daft 'moon landing hoax'.

    I'm telling ya, the shadows aren't right . . .
     
  15. wreckhead

    wreckhead Well-Known Member

    Having read the document a little more it does seem to debunk Michael Moore's claims that a Saudi flight had left the US before the national "flight ban" was lifted. Also it debunks the idea that the the passengers were not investigated/interviewed, which is an important development.

    However, I do still find it strange that the FBI, whilst claiming that the other Bin Laden family members were not linked to Osama in the sense that they were half-brothers and had not been in contact with him, could then conclude that the flight MAY have been chartered by OBL himself. :confused:
     
  16. MikeMcc

    MikeMcc Well-Known Member

    You get heavily questioned on EL Al flights full-stop, i've had it and I'm as Caucasian as they come.
     
  17. MikeMcc

    MikeMcc Well-Known Member

    The document was also supposedly written two days after the flight, nor does it mention if any of the passsengers had diplomatic status (a likelyhood for royalty), this would've meant that those individuals and their families couldn't be searched or questioned.
     
  18. Fruitloop

    Fruitloop communism will win

  19. J77

    J77 residing

    Glastonbury's finished, I give this thread until the end of the day... :D
     
  20. nino_savatte

    nino_savatte No pasaran!

    :D
     
  21. Fruitloop

    Fruitloop communism will win

    The mystery solved with the aid of Microsoft Paint.
     
  22. goldenecitrone

    goldenecitrone post tenebras lux

    Fuck me. This deserves a thread of its own, surely. If not a forum. :eek:
     
  23. axon

    axon Happy hour abuser

    I agree with you. I wondered about whether these were the same flights that Moore was talking about in Fahrenheit 911.

    Yes, these seems to be the the only odd thing. As I said earlier though it may be that because of the bin Laden name someone may have suggested Osama chartered the flights, so they deserved the further investigations of interviewing passengers. I think this might be slightly more likely than Osama conspired with Bush to fly holographic planes into the WTC towers that had been prewired with invisible explosives.
     
  24. GarfieldLeChat

    GarfieldLeChat fucking awesome but wrong

    and of course these things can't be faked or stuck up on internetsites for others to see i mean look at this extract from an fbi communiquee i found linking the editor and urban75 to definate shenanigans...

    [​IMG]
     
  25. Flavour

    Flavour hang the bankers

    Garfield I heard you were on the plane that hit the North Tower but you survived - then jumped off the WTC, survived, and swam across the Atlantic to get home, surviving, and were then paid $3.8million by urban75 to make a mockery of the whole thing :mad:
     
  26. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    you're not helping garf :p :D
     
  27. Jazzz

    Jazzz the truth don't care Banned

    Praise be, someone has realised that it makes no fucking sense whatsoever!!!!
     
  28. TAE

    TAE http://tinyurl.com/U75TAE R.I.P.

    The jpeg artifacts give it away - use png next time.
    ;)
     
  29. wreckhead

    wreckhead Well-Known Member

    I realise my little cropped screen grab is being severely mocked (both made me :D btw) but to drop a note of seriousness it came from the document linked to in my post - from the FBI to Judicial Watch (a conservative organisation as I understand). Now some fakery could have gone on there but then we're back in conspiracy land again. :)

    It doesn't completely explain away this oddity, but it occured to me that maybe someone who typed "Saudi Royalty Family" may well have it in them to make a mistake and put the wrong Bin Laden.
     
  30. editor

    editor hiraethified

    I've been rumbled!

    I would have got away with it too if it wasn't for those pesky 9/11 bedroom detectives and their clever web trawling ways!.
     

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