Organising versus activism?

Discussion in 'theory, philosophy & history' started by Jeremiah18.17, Oct 1, 2018.

  1. Jeremiah18.17

    Jeremiah18.17 Well-Known Member

    This article poses activism and organising as two separate approaches with organising as far preferable. Is it as simple as this? Plenty of food for thought.
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  2. Dragnet

    Dragnet Well-Known Member

    Really like this article. From a position of agreement, it's thrown up some interesting questions for me. I.e. how do organisations approach struggles (for example, a tenants' association in a particular block of flats) that they are not personally involved in, without assuming some sort of vanguardist position? I'd suggest that would be by contacting them to find out their needs, and then using the organisation's resources to help push for them.
    Agree that this is difficult, but it's a double-edged sword; it's beneficial in that it's the only way revolutionary organisations can have any link with the wider class. I think the question here is the degree of disagreement. No organisation would work with a dyed-in-the-wool fascist, but it's inevitable that they'd come into conflict with racist or sexist views, for example. How would this be dealt with? Here, I'd say by pointing out how they divide and weaken the class as a whole.

    I realise I'm answering my own questions a bit there, but I'm interested in what others think.

    EDIT: probably slightly off-topic here as these questions are a bit tangential to the main argument.
    Last edited: Oct 4, 2018
  3. crossthebreeze

    crossthebreeze Well-Known Member

    Its just coming up as "loading tweet" for me - you got any other link for it?
  4. Cid

    Cid 慢慢走

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  5. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model Starry Wisdom

    It's no surprise that the anti-poll tax campaign was such a success, in those places where it was organised rather than activised.
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  6. Patteran

    Patteran A nowadays excuse

    Adolph Reed makes an associated distinction, doesn't he. Contrasts contemporary activism around protesting racism as a concept (abstracted from capitalism) with historical challenges to specific, concrete examples of racialised policies.

    (I'll link it rather than paraphrasing/quoting further - it's been posted before
    Antiracism: vague politics about an nearly indescribable thing )
  7. 8ball

    8ball Chipperer than average

    I'd always figured activism just meant "doing something", and so "organising" would come under that general umbrella.

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