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Really, you trust a lawyer in this day and age, rushing trials through in a few days because theres no funding, no "access to justice", a lawyer that spends his days lying and manipulating dumb jurys, a lawyer that doesnt really have your best interst at heart, who just wants to go through the motions and make it "appear" like your having a fair trial, a lawyer whos sole motivation is to appease the police, not make friends with the criminal rouge hes supposed to represent, whilst the judge turns a blind eye...its such a pleasent fiction our justice system.
perhaps you should have got a better lawyer.
 
Better as in one not relyant on legal aid? because thats the reality of our criminal justice system, if your poor.
 
This lad Steve White does not agree with you, but he's only the chair of the Police Federation and been in law enforcement for 28 years. (first link last post)

I don't know him personally, but I would suggest that he has a particular position that is not likely to ever call for a reduction in Police numbers. As a separate issue, the Police federation is hardly a model of democratic accountability, and so the degree to which White's view actually represent his membership (across the ranks concerned) is likely to be complex.
 
I don't know him personally, but I would suggest that he has a particular position that is not likely to ever call for a reduction in Police numbers. As a separate issue, the Police federation is hardly a model of democratic accountability, and so the degree to which White's view actually represent his membership (across the ranks concerned) is likely to be complex.
Moreever, the fact is that 20,000 police officers have been cut since the Conservatives came to power in 2010 is merely a statistic. That fact has a vested interest in fact shares in factcorp. Plus the number 20,000 is not a model of transparency and is clearly not representative of its units and the last thre zeroes are often not fully represented by those left of the comma. [/bollocks]
 
Really, you trust a lawyer in this day and age, rushing trials through in a few days because theres no funding, no "access to justice", a lawyer that spends his days lying and manipulating dumb jurys, a lawyer that doesnt really have your best interst at heart, who just wants to go through the motions and make it "appear" like your having a fair trial, a lawyer whos sole motivation is to appease the police, not make friends with the criminal rouge hes supposed to represent, whilst the judge turns a blind eye...its such a pleasent fiction our justice system.


Or stretching a public enquiry out for years when knowing the "brutally opressed inoccent farmers" were armed members of a shia milita ":rolleyes::facepalm:
 
Worth noting the government are using powers that have been previously scrutinised by Parliment and passed into law.
Passing a bill and the circumstances in which its powers are thereafter used are not the same thing. So, that's a strange and context-free statement for you to make.

There are all sorts of aspects of the current circumstances that we might want to question and scrutinise.
 
Passing a bill and the circumstances in which its powers are thereafter used are not the same thing. So, that's a strange and context-free statement for you to make.

There are all sorts of aspects of the current circumstances that we might want to question and scrutinise.
there are times a screen of soldiers comes in handy, said theresa to her secretary
 
Better than calling me a twat and then whining about getting insults back at you. :thumbs:

You haven't added anything though. Many people have come out with slightly underthought arguments on here and been jumped on, and might have some sympathy with you. But smugly pointing out that the chair of the police federation is a great source for critical views on police numbers is just fucking stupid.
 
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