pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
I'm awaiting detective boy's contribution to this thread with baited breath...
opening securicor money boxes
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DJ Squelch
King Of Insides
bluestreak said:
Just ask your nearest university with a chemistry department. I get a few litres now and then to make instant icecream for our kids science show.
What dye do they use? Crystal violet maybe, thats a bugger to get off.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
Easy peasy...Dante said:
It'll just be a GPS receiver with an RF transmitter, periodically sending out it's location. All you need to do is build a Faraday cage - just line the "opening" room with tin foil, connect up a few batteries, then those pesky RF signals ain't going nowhere.
Obviously you'd need to surround it by a smaller version to move it to the opening location - that could just be a suitcase lined with tin foil.
Good plan.WouldBe said:
So what to do:
Find a van, get a reasonably decent GPS disruptor, drive smartly away from the scene. Doing so fill the back with Liquid Nitrogen to disrupt individual tracking devices in each box. Dump the securicor van, transfer contents to the standard (and essential) white transit, take to the urban lock up, get laptop to use his chamber to open them, then donate half the proceeds to the server fund, stick the other half behind the bar...
Trying to cover all angles here. If the dye is a powder that reacts with o2 then we need to seal the boxes in something to prevent contact with air. When we get it to the chamber, drop the pressure and investigate. N stops the GPS, even after the van is ditched, and also covers against the possibility of a liquid dye.
Question is whether there is anyway of using the chamber without a robot.
Question is whether there is anyway of using the chamber without a robot.
What about any explosive charge? I suppose that that would go too. (thinks about it) okid nitrogien to fill the truck, then another supercooled truck to take it to the lock up.
You would still need to open it in close to 0 Kelvin temperatures though. Unless you knew what the composition of the powder/dye was
You would still need to open it in close to 0 Kelvin temperatures though. Unless you knew what the composition of the powder/dye was
*Miss Daisy*
Suck a Big Hairy....
EastEnder said:Easy peasy...
It'll just be a GPS receiver with an RF transmitter, periodically sending out it's location. All you need to do is build a Faraday cage - just line the "opening" room with tin foil, connect up a few batteries, then those pesky RF signals ain't going nowhere.
Obviously you'd need to surround it by a smaller version to move it to the opening location - that could just be a suitcase lined with tin foil.
I went for the more complicated in my head - I was thinking along the lines of, a big lead lined lorry, drive van into lorry,, drive far away, then you'll have plenty of time to do the things that need doing,but your idea is easy peasy
- thats how the shoplifters get there gear passed the alarms innit? - with out the need for batteries and stuff
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
EastEnder said:Easy peasy...
It'll just be a GPS receiver with an RF transmitter, periodically sending out it's location. All you need to do is build a Faraday cage - just line the "opening" room with tin foil, connect up a few batteries, then those pesky RF signals ain't going nowhere.
Obviously you'd need to surround it by a smaller version to move it to the opening location - that could just be a suitcase lined with tin foil.
This is also the method used to fool shop security alarms when shoplifting - a bag lined with tin foil. You can however get nicked for going equipped if caught with a tin foil lined bag.
EastEnder
Brixton Barnacle
They're hardly sealed metal boxes though, are they?WouldBe said:Vans by their very nature are metal boxes specially if they have no windows in them.
RF signals are omnidirectional, they'll happily find even the tiniest gap. Besides which, a truly effect Faraday cage needs to be have a charge passed through it.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
EastEnder said:
Not hard to make a van sealed. If not already present weld a plate behind the drivers compartment. Make sure the sides of the van are welded to the floor and roof. Spray conductive silver or nickel paint on the rubber door seals so when the doors are shut the paint completes the circuit.
Not sure that a faraday cage does need a charge passing through it.
DJ Squelch
King Of Insides
Wiskey, have you ever been to Derbyshire.
Security boxes nicked - 2 days before this thread was started
Security boxes nicked - 2 days before this thread was started
WouldBe
Dislicksick
DJ Squelch said:Wiskey, have you ever been to Derbyshire.
Security boxes nicked - 2 days before this thread was started
Dunno about Whisky but I live in Derbyshire.
*goes into hiding*
I don't do science and nature questions (or arts!) ...pseudonarcissus said:
Haven't scanned past here (the thread has been mentioned on the Dirty Bomb Comspiracy thread so I came for a look) ...
... but you've got to work out how to stop the box exploding when it goes beyond a few yards from the person / vehicle / building based other transmitter first ...
(This brings back memories of: (a) armed robbers in a mini screaming down the Uxbridge Road with orange smoke pouring out of the windows (on council CCTV) ... (b) armed robbers being chased by us (our ambush was a bit of a fuck up) when the box exploded on them and they put their car into a lamppost .... and (c) armed robbers sitting round a pile of orange money, in an orange bedroom in an orange flat high up a Swiss Cottage tower block, looking like they'd just been Tango'ed whe we burst in ...)
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