One State Solution

[moono]

Rofl !

 

[dylanredefined]

So ak47 rockets and and sucide bombers wont defeat Israel.And non violence wont work .The only thing that unites the middle east is the fact they all like sticking it too the palestians .Sucks to be them .

 

[moono]

There is hope for them if Hizb'allah can continue to withstand the IOF and make political headway. There is hope for them if Russian support enables Iran to weather Zionist and American aggression and they will benefit from an improving Syrian economy . They will also be assisted by the strengthening of Egyptian opposition to tyranny and the clever diplomatic play by small States like Qatar. They enjoy the full support of more distant States too, notably in Indonesia and Pakistan.

Too be quite frank, in an unnecessary religious war, started by the Mad Methodist, I hope the fucking evangelists lose, with all that that entails.

I wouldn't write the Palestinians off, not by a loooooong chalk.

 

[newharper]

How can you compare Yassin to Ghandi? Yassin was in favor of & an organizer of suicide bombings of Israeli civilians & believed all Jews that arrived after 1948 should leave/be driven out.

What about this guy then?

introduced him to Ziad Abu Amr, the serious Palestinian political scientist and public intellectual who was the Foreign Minister in the Palestinians' recent unity government (and prior to that, Culture Minister in the government that Mahmoud Abbas headed as PM, back in 2003.)

In an article,

Ze'ev Schiff, RIP

http://justworldnews.org/

Helena Cobban, relates how Ze'ev Schiff passed on what she took as a death threat.

They were still eager to have it be as broad a national unity government as possible. The American and Israeli government were agitating hard against that: from that point, it was already very evident that they really, seriously, wanted the Hamas-led political order in the PA government to fail. Ziad, who had always been a key bridging personality between Abu Mazen and Hamas, was widely rumored to be in the running to be named Foreign Minister in the Hamas-led government...

So Ze'ev, who has always been extremely well connected with the Israeli authorities, leaned forward to me over the open-air table at the coffee-shop and said, "Tell Ziad not to do it! Tell him, if he does, he will face the most serious consequences."
Later, in a phone conversation we had while I was on my way to Gaza, Ze'ev repreated that warning, in even more urgent terms.

It was my clear understanding that this was the transmission of (or very well informed reporting of) a death threat from the Israeli authorities. Ze'ev Schiff was not a person prone to exaggeration.

The following article, on the webpage too, is also very informative.

Hamas, the US big media, and the world

link also available through Juan Coles comment of the 20'th.

 

[TomUS]

What about this guy then?



In an article,

http://justworldnews.org/

Helena Cobban, relates how Ze'ev Schiff passed on what she took as a death threat.




The following article, on the webpage too, is also very informative.



link also available through Juan Coles comment of the 20'th.

Sorry. I don't get your point. Could you summarize?

 

[mears]

And they should follow the orders of someone who can't even spell the names of the prescribed leaders, why?

Thats all you can come up with

 

[mears]

The Zionists have had a policy of assassinating any such people for some time, a policy endorsed by America with the UK's silence complicit.

Using an attack helicopter to explode Yassin in his wheelchair, as he left the mosque after prayer, was an exercise in callous brutality, the repercussions of which will continue to reverberate.

Right, Yassin was quite the chap. His organization never would attack innocent civilians, no blood on his hands.

Just a solid, peaceful guy who understood both entities, Iraelis and Palestinians needed to find common ground.

Is that how you would describe him?

 

[mears]

Quite. Which is exactly where your boys learnt their trade and then applied it in Deir Yassin, Lydda, Haifa, the Galilee and 200+ villages that were depopulated by violence or the threat of

OK, for the record now.

You are correlating the acts of the SS on the eastern front during World War II and the present day acts of the Israeli governmant and or army?

You believe Israeli agression is similar to German atrocities in WWII?

 

[Spion]

OK, for the record now.

You are correlating the acts of the SS on the eastern front during World War II and the present day acts of the Israeli governmant and or army?

You believe Israeli agression is similar to German atrocities in WWII?

Yes, it was and is similar - from the 1947/8 clearances of whole city quarters, towns and villages to todays 'legalised' destruction of arab communities. It was and is ethnic cleansing.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Thats all you can come up with

Nelson Mandela = terrorist. who's organsieation murdered civllians...

Gandhi = Terrorist who established ashrams (terrorist schools in mears speak) in order to oppose the british.

so you are sayign that yassin shouldn't act like a terrorist but like a terrorist... ok nice logic ... as usual...

oh and can we have a qualitive anayisis of the sharron (a convicted war criminal) ? or peres... this bollocks tit for tat shitehawk crap can go on all day face facts smears both sides don't have innocents in power, nor are they likely to under the current circumstances...

 

[likesfish]

idf nothing like the SS don't have spiffy uniforms and can't march

 

[newharper]

Sorry. I don't get your point. Could you summarize?

Well it seemed to me that you were suggesting that it was ok to assassinate Ahmed Yassin because of his views, I was trying to point out that Israel uses the assassination weapon against anyone it considers its enemy.

Ziad Abu Amr is however in mo way a "terrorist".

The Jewish virtual Library has this to say.

Dr. Abu Amr is a reform minded politician who has mentored and shares philosophies with the "young guard" of Palestinian elected leaders (elected leaders in the PLC who oppose the "old guard" PLO revolutionaries who are loyal to Yasser Arafat).. He has, at times, been critical of the Palestinian Authority administration and security services. He has called for open elections. Dr. Abu Amr is popular with young, reform minded Palestinians.

Dr. Abu Amr is a proponent of democratic elections and has suggested Hamas and Islamic Jihad be allowed representation as opposition groups. He believes they would then be more accountable for their actions.

Dr. Abu Amr has been quoted as saying that Sept. 11 is not the only reason the Bush administration has given the Sharon government the "green light" to deal firmly with the Palestinians. He believes the "…suicide bombings…may also have something to do with it." His comments may be interpreted by some as a criticism of suicide bombings’ value as a negotiating tool.

Dr. Abu Amr is viewed as a likely ally of Prime Minister Abu Mazen.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/ZAmr.html

I, however would regard assassination as wrong. Firstly on moral grounds. Secondly it is counterproductive.

re. Yassin even the Bush White House had to pretend it had some understanding of the International reaction.

Scott McClellan, the White House Press Secretary, said, "We are deeply troubled by this morning's incident,"

The State Dept. had a more realistic reaction.

A State Department spokesman said: "This does not help efforts to resume progress towards peace."

 

[moono]

Yassin was a moderate, about as moderate as you can get in Palestinian politics without being a bum-boy for a Zionist stormtrooper.

Hamas, it should be noted, began their political campaign outside Yassin's house. If the Zionists didn't want a politicized Hamas then murdering Yassin was a bad idea.