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One Sport?

American Football.

Ideally I'd prefer football, with a league structure that emphasises parity, however that will never be allowed to happen by the top clubs.
 
SpookyFrank said:
Cricket is nowhere near cool enough for the money men to bother with (India notwithstanding) and so it shoud be safe from the cascade of bullshit for a while yet :)
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Ever heard of Alan Stanford?

The ruination of cricket is coming, it's already here
 
Hard to say...

F1 gets the most attention from me these days but happy to watch a good footy, rugby, cricket match over a dull race.
 
well if you will present me with an open goal it's difficult to resist stopping the ball on the line, kneeling down and heading it in
 
Rugby or maybe MotoGP....

No, it has to be Rugby.

Top flight football's just too dishonest to bother with these days, a joke sport.
 
Juice Terry said:
Rugby or maybe MotoGP....

No, it has to be Rugby.

Top flight football's just too dishonest to bother with these days, a joke sport.
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People don't half talk a lot of cliched shit. What exactly is dishonest about it? In terms of massive global sports I'd say top flight English football is remarkably clean. If by dishonest you mean unfair in that it's dominated by some big clubs with money then I'd point out that Motorsports are even worse for that and that Rugby is for middle class cunts (yes yes I know it's different in Wales and with Rugby League).
 
revol68 said:
People don't half talk a lot of cliched shit. What exactly is dishonest about it? In terms of massive global sports I'd say top flight English football is remarkably clean. If by dishonest you mean unfair in that it's dominated by some big clubs with money then I'd point out that Motorsports are even worse for that and that Rugby is for middle class cunts (yes yes I know it's different in Wales and with Rugby League).
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No I mean its played by cheats, more intent on getting one over the ref or their opponents booked or sent off, than actually playing the game. The cheating is now so ingrained that it has actually become part of the game, diving for penalties is accepted, rolling around on the ground clutching the face as if shot at the merest touch etc etc etc

Joke sport played by dishonest cheats.
 
Foooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaal.
 
Football v fatball

Are we really going to compare the ethical standards of association football and rugby union?

Will we be employing the usual exemption of ignoring all the butting, gouging and stamping on heads which is the normal stuff of forward play in rugby union on the grounds that, er, it's an accepted part of the game?
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Are we really going to compare the ethical standards of association footbal land rugby union?

Will we be employing the usual exemption of ignoring all the butting, gouging and stamping on heads which is the normal stuff of forward play in rugby union on the grounds that, er, it's an accepted part of the game?
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It's far from normal and a mile from 'accepted', and where reported has resulted in bans measured in months or even seasons - and this may be done retrospectively.

For example, Dylan Hartley was banned for 6 months for 'illegal contact with the eye area' - gouging to you and me.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Are we really going to compare the ethical standards of association football and rugby union?

Will we be employing the usual exemption of ignoring all the butting, gouging and stamping on heads which is the normal stuff of forward play in rugby union on the grounds that, er, it's an accepted part of the game?
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It's not the violence I object to its the cheating. Nothing wrong with a bit of honest biff.:)
 
mattie said:
It's far from normal and a mile from 'accepted', and where reported has resulted in bans measured in months or even seasons - and this may be done retrospectively.
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Can I draw your attention to the brawl on the ground involving two players during the Wales v Ireland international two or three seasons ago? And to the reaction of the TV commentators who immediately said what a shame it would be if there were any punishment for the two players involved?
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Can I draw your attention to the brawl on the ground involving two players during the Wales v Ireland international two or three seasons ago? And to the reaction of the TV commentators who immediately said what a shame it would be if there were any punishment for the two players involved?
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Yes, you can - a relevant hyperlink is a well-established mechanism for doing so.
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Hah, very good. I am sure though that we are both aware of the incident to which I refer.
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I'm afraid I honestly don't know what you're referring to - a match report would be useful.

I must also point out that your original point related to gouging, butting and stamping. Although some older players may accept a bit of the 'silver slipper' it is generally condemned, and there is no-one who will accept gouging.
 
The rugby sets whinging about the cheating and dishonesty in football is just a load of hypocritical shite. They enjoy a game of little elegance and grace but instead involves overgrown lumps banging into each other and grabbing each others balls in the ruck.
 
Football. Nothing else even comes close, although I've been getting into cycling but only really the big events like the Giro and Tour De France.
 
revol68 said:
The rugby sets whinging about the cheating and dishonesty in football is just a load of hypocritical shite. They enjoy a game of little elegance and grace but instead involves overgrown lumps banging into each other and grabbing each others balls in the ruck.
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You're right. If it's not on sky's Super Sunday, it's just not worth watching.
 
mattie said:
I'm afraid I honestly don't know what you're referring to - a match report would be useful.
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Well, one of the things that got my goat at the time was the absence of the incident - which went on for quite some time right in front of the TV cameras - from any match report I could find. Because it was rugby union.
 
Then there was this letter I sent to the Guardian in 2004:

Richard Hill's reminiscences of the 1987 Five Nations

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/sixnations2004/story/0,,1161540,00.html

appear to consist entirely of brutal actions and retaliations. Players are "maimed" and "smacked", they get "a busted nose" and have "blood pouring out of them". This is all reported without comment. Would you be so indulgent if these were the memories of a football player, or are different standards extended to the gentlemen who play rugby union?
 
Donna Ferentes said:
Well, one of the things that got my goat at the time was the absence of the incident - which went on for quite some time right in front of the TV cameras - from any match report I could find. Because it was rugby union.
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I will admit that two players throwing a few punches are rarely cited, mainly as the focus is upon dealing with the cheap-shot artists.

See McRae pounding O'Gara in the 2001 lions - he got a 7-week ban for that as O'Gara couldn't defend himself.



Mat Rogers throws a few punches at Josh Lewsey. The refs ignore them. Lewsey deals with it instead.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=620739801
 
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