One more nail in the coffin for PC games

[Cid]

Also consoles haven't managed to find any way of making RTS/turn based strategy workable (or as workable as it is on the PC), and with Supreme Commander, the new Dawn of War, Starcraft 2 (one day) and the new Total War that market is pretty good... On-line gaming is much less vulnerable to piracy too of course.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Nothing wrong with piracy. There's plenty of games I'd never buy but would play so it's not like there's money they're missing out on...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Also consoles haven't managed to find any way of making RTS/turn based strategy workable (or as workable as it is on the PC), and with Supreme Commander, the new Dawn of War, Starcraft 2 (one day) and the new Total War that market is pretty good... On-line gaming is much less vulnerable to piracy too of course.

Interface is a big issue, the joypad simply isn't good enough for it. All though I'm curious as to why some bright spark hasn't done it for the Wii. You'd think that the Wiimote would be pretty good for RTS'...

 

[Cid]

Well it would take a very bright spark and a lot of time I imagine... It would also mean developers making either an exclusive Wii RTS or porting an older title (as I doubt the Wii is up to running the current gen) with a completely reworked interface; I just don't think the demand would be high enough to justify that kind of investment.

 

[ChrisFilter]

Nothing wrong with piracy. There's plenty of games I'd never buy but would play so it's not like there's money they're missing out on...

In your case, but there's plenty out there who won't pay for the ones they'd normally buy.

 

[Sunray]

Bump!

Thought it was worth revisiting this thread as PC gaming appears to be going through a bit of a renaissance at the moment. It's getting all the decent cross-platform titles, a decent smattering of the 360 exclusives and, of course, it's own fantastic exclusives like Crysis, Football Manager 09 (for now), Cryostasis and all the RTS games like Company of Heroes, CCRA: 3.

Get yourself a 360 controller and you've essentially got a 360 with better graphics and mods for games, plus a massive, massive back catalogue of PC games that dwarf all the last couple of generations of consoles combined.

Of course, piracy is a massive issue on the PC and I have been known to use 'evaluation' copies before buying a game, but if I do play anything for more than a few minutes, I will always buy it. No-one buys the games, no games get made.

Looking forward to Cryostasis and Mirror's Edge as well as the new F.E.A.R. - and currently 'rocking' Fallout 3, FM09 (superb, lost most of last night to it), Fifa 09, Mass Effect and the Crysis games.

Nice one, PC like BG. Especially as past criticisms, such as the cost of hardware, are largely irrelevant now. £300 will get you a rig that'll play most titles comfortably. And then of course, games cost £25 for new titles whereas they're £45 on consoles.

Not really thought about it, but yes it does seem to be huge change from when I posted that. Very little to interest me at the time. I'm definitely not complaining.

I'm still a wasd mouse man over a 360 controller however adept I have become at using it.

 

[ChrisFilter]

I'm still a wasd mouse man over a 360 controller however adept I have become at using it.

Depends on the game, for me. For pure PC FPSs then yeah, keyboard and mouse every time (i.e. Crysis) but for cross platforms like Gears of War or Fallout 3 I choose the pad because you can sit more comfortably and they were designed with a pad in mind.

 

[Cid]

Fallout 3 interface is not really any different to any other PC FPS and works fine(ish). I always thought Morrowind was a much better game them Oblivion in many respects though, interface went a bit shit when they started doing stuff for consoles.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

In your case, but there's plenty out there who won't pay for the ones they'd normally buy.

I reckon my reasoning outweighs those...

 

[ChrisFilter]

I reckon my reasoning outweighs those...

Nonsense. For every one person like you (and I) there are 10 who never pay for anything.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Nonsense. For every one person like you (and I) there are 10 who never pay for anything.

I can't find it at the moment but about a year ago I read a survey with people that regularly pirate and the figures where just as I've described.

 

[ChrisFilter]

I can't find it at the moment but about a year ago I read a survey with people that regularly pirate and the figures where just as I've described.

Yeah, but isn't everyone going to say that, if asked?

 

[purplex]

Games can be and have been pirated on every platform, there have been superb games coming through all year on the pc platform, and graphically the PC platform leaves the consoles gasping for air, it is ultimately expandable and its the platform the most forward thinking games are designed for.

 

[Sunray]

Games can be and have been pirated on every platform, there have been superb games coming through all year on the pc platform, and graphically the PC platform leaves the consoles gasping for air, it is ultimately expandable and its the platform the most forward thinking games are designed for.

That also costs the studios shit loads extra for QA why they like the consoles so much.

Consoles aren't 1/2 bad these days mind. I'm not playing my 360 thinking the games looking a bit shit.