Okay, supposing that we club up for a Bulgarian assassin to jab Russell T Davies

[Meltingpot]

Seems that Yes Minister! has featured a joke about this, so I withdraw my last comment.

 

[Macabre]

Dawkins could maybe put some science back in the show
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/russell-t-davies-return-of-the-tea-time-lord-805255.html

 

[poster342002]

Yes, but the problem is finding someone who's got the writing experience of Russell T Davies, the hands-on production experience of Russell T Davies, who's as well-resepected in the industry as Russell T Davies, who's as much of a lifelong Doctor Who fan as Russell T Davies, and who isn't Russell T Davies. It's quite tricky.

I'm sure it could be done. Other shows seem to manage.

 

[elevendayempire]

I'm sure it could be done. Other shows seem to manage.

Actually, history's shown that when the guiding force behind a series buggers off (Joss Whedon for Buffy, Aaron Sorkin for The West Wing), there's usually a pretty steep decline in quality.

 

[danny la rouge]

I don't hate RTD at all. I don't think he's ruining Doctor Who.

Quite right. And you're right to point out he brought it back.

However, while character development, series plot interconnections, Big Picture stuff, etc can certainly be entrusted to him, his episodes are a bit rubbish and a bit cobbled together.

 

[Wilf]

I'm worried hes saying hes going to be staying on for another 20 years, does he really think he'll live long enough to do that.

No, but he can regenerate.

 

[poster342002]

Actually, history's shown that when the guiding force behind a series buggers off (Joss Whedon for Buffy, Aaron Sorkin for The West Wing), there's usually a pretty steep decline in quality.

Not always. Star Trek:The Next Generation actually improved by ramping up the drama and toning down the shmaltzy emotion & charecter studies once Gene Roddenberry was no longer involved with it.

 

[butterfly child]

Have I made an inadvertant double entendre? (I'm very old, you see).

Or is this just a difference of opinion? It's just that I think the new Dr Who (ie Ecclescake and Tennants) has been - overall - great. And better than I remember the old series.

The old series were shit, watching the re-runs only goes to reinforce my view.

 

[Ungrateful]

Has no one said Terry Nation yet?

 

[danny la rouge]

The old series were shit, watching the re-runs only goes to reinforce my view.

I've never seen them since they first aired. The last Doctor I watched before Ecclescake was Tom Baker. I never saw the intervening Drs, but they look rubbish in the photos. As does that Bertie Bassett monster. Jesus! The episode on Saturday was poor, but not that bad.

 

[poster342002]

I've never seen them since they first aired. The last Doctor I watched before Ecclescake was Tom Baker. I never saw the intervening Drs, but they look rubbish in the photos. As does that Bertie Bassett monster. Jesus! The episode on Saturday was poor, but not that bad.

The script for that story, The Happiness Patrol, was actually very intelligent and entertaining (more than I can say for Partners In Crime). The premise of it was a nightmarish society where the government had ordered the populace to be happy at all times - or die.

 

[zoooo]

I want them to bring Bertie Basset back!

 

[DotCommunist]

The scrip for that story, The Happiness Patrol, was actually very intelligent and entertaining (more than I can say for Partners In Crime). The premise of it was a nightmarish society where the government had ordered the populace to be happy at all times - or die.

True. And the pink Tardis was funny.

 

[Vash]

This scripts for the old series were generally good it was let donw by poor special effects, acting and production.

The new series still has poor production, direction and special effects, I heard that an episode of Who costs more than Battlestar Galactica and you can see what show has spent the money well.

I think it got worse after CE left I don't think he'd have done some of the daft crap Tennant did.

I don't know if i'll watch it tonight or not I know it will upset me. I don't think Russel T davies realises how angry hes making people.

 

[zoooo]

I don't think he cares how angry he's making a very small percentage of people. Because he's making the vast majority very happy.

I don't think Eccleston was particularly good as the Doctor, to be honest. Plus he always said he'd never go to any Who conventions or be involved with that kind of thing at all. Which although I can kind of understand on a personal level!, makes him seem like a right precious twat.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I don't think Eccleston was particularly good as the Doctor, to be honest. Plus he always said he'd never go to any Who conventions or be involved with that kind of thing at all. Which although I can kind of understand on a personal level!, makes him seem like a right precious twat.

I thought he was good, but then Tennant took the same sort of persona and did it better. Ecclestone did seem like a pretty poor sport quitting after one series though, surely when he agreed to do it in the first place he must have known that there would be implications re people taking him seriously in the future, or did he think he'd be able to turn Doctor Who into high art?

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Woot!

 

[Ich bin ein Mod]

*dances*

 

[killer b]

i watched blink for the first time this afternoon. twas aces.

 

[stdPikachu]

Moffat. Blank was one of the best 45min of TV I have ever seen.

This and the fact he did some remarkably clever time/perspective-baed stories for Coupling (yeah yeah yeah, sitcom trash where everyone is stereotypically something, I hear ya already) put him in the lead. He's also a massive Who fan, and the throwaway comment in Blink about the windows on the TARDIS being too small stems from a discussion he was following on the Who forums re: period inaccuracies regarding the TARDIS model

 

[CNT36]

It was even cooler than the UNIT dates joke a few weeks back.

 

[danny la rouge]

Just to let people know why there are celebrations: RTD has quit, and Moffatt has taken over.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7411177.stm

The fifth series, with Moffat at the helm, is scheduled to be broadcast on BBC One in Spring 2010.

 

[andy2002]

I doubt Moffat's run in charge will be much different to RTD's to be honest. I like RTD and think he has done a mostly excellent job although I haven't enjoyed this new series much - the Agatha Christie episode was awful and Tennant is past his sell-by as The Doctor now.

 

[danny la rouge]

I like RTD and think he has done a mostly excellent job although I haven't enjoyed this new series much

He ran out of steam. But, yes, he did an excellent job. Up until this series.

 

[joevsimp]

Has no one said Terry Nation yet?

he rather unfortunately popped his cloggs in '97, otherwise yes please

The new series still has poor production, direction and special effects, I heard that an episode of Who costs more than Battlestar Galactica and you can see what show has spent the money well.

no
frakking
way

thats just a shamefull waste of money if true, i know canada has favourable exchange rates, but, whereas who looks like nothing better than a saturday evening series, nu BSG looks and feels like a multimillion dollar movie and is miles ahead of the original, while who really hasnt advanced as much

 

[elevendayempire]

It was even cooler than the UNIT dates joke a few weeks back.

Which they nicked out of one of the 90s Who novels, without crediting the author. Just like they nicked the Time War, the Sycorax, the Doctor's daughter and, ooh, a bunch of other stuff. Davies is bloody good at his job, but I object to him taking credit for other peoples' ideas and work...