Ok so what was the best Alien film?
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Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Aliens - greatest action flick ever made.
gnoriac
lowly seer
Alien - apart from the crap computer that displayed text on its screen at rates slower than a 1960's teletype.
The great thing was you only ever saw glimpses of the alien until the end, reminiscent of Hitchcock's Psycho, leaving your mind to fill in the rest to great effect. Also the timing was brilliant, e.g. the point where the baby version bursts out of John Hurt's chest after having previously relaxed the audience with the space equivalent of the middle class dinner party.
The great thing was you only ever saw glimpses of the alien until the end, reminiscent of Hitchcock's Psycho, leaving your mind to fill in the rest to great effect. Also the timing was brilliant, e.g. the point where the baby version bursts out of John Hurt's chest after having previously relaxed the audience with the space equivalent of the middle class dinner party.
fear-n-loathing
drinking mouthwash
definately the seond one, but it has to be the directors cut
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Why do people dig Aliens so much? It's bloated, dull in places and replaces the horror with action
Reno
The In Kraut
Orang Utan said:
At the time Aliens was the most breathlessly intense film I'd ever seen and it got a reaction from audiences unlike few films I'd experienced in a cinema. I think the directors cut does draw things out for too long though but I really don't think the film is ever dull. Maybe it's effect has been diluted by now because it redefined the action film and many films since then have copied what Aliens did first (the smartass banter between the marines, the "one fucking thing after another"-structure)
Aliens also expanded on and subverted many of the themnes in the original in a way that was genuinely smart. The way the film developed Ripley's character was also consistent with the first film and very satisfying. If the first film was about rape and pregnancy then the second one was about motherhood. Like Ripley we never quite trust the android after having seen the first film, etc, etc.
It was intentional to shift the genre with the second film and I thought it was a great idea. The horror and tension were still there IMO, but if the first film was the best ever ghost train, then the second one was the best ever rollercoaster till then. As I said above the original is still the best, but this was one of the very few sequels I've seen that didn't dissapoint.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Other than the guns, I liked Aliens for the way it portrayed a group of crack marines having their asses kicked and falling apart while it happened - Hudson also get's some of the best lines in cinema.
PLus, Newt is that rare thing - a non-annoying child. When she says 'We'd better get inside because they mostly come at night. Mostly', the 2nd mostly manages to convey kiddie innocence combined with fear of something terrible.
PLus, Newt is that rare thing - a non-annoying child. When she says 'We'd better get inside because they mostly come at night. Mostly', the 2nd mostly manages to convey kiddie innocence combined with fear of something terrible.
Reno
The In Kraut
Marius said:?
Aliens makes great use of suspense to create a really unerving horror pic.
- Dank dark tunnels where you know something is there out to get you but you cannot see it.
- Tapping into our urban myth horror of something growing insider you and bursting out.
- Helplessness against a big nasty monster seemingly impossible to stop.
Add to that the enemy within of corporate betrayal and some action and you've got a blinder of a plot and a film.
Don't care what you say, its genius.
In all fairness, that's exactly what the first film did perfectly well. If the sequel had only repeated this it wouldn't have been as good as it is.
T & P
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Some fucking memorable quotes there:Idaho said:
"We'd better get back, 'cause it'll be dark soon, and they mostly come at night... mostly."
There was an episode of South Park when Cartman can't stop saying the above quote
And of course there is the immortal and U75 old favourite "Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be safe".
souljacker
innit
kyser_soze said:
You reckon? I think she's annoying, like practically every kid that has ever appeared in a film, ever.
souljacker
innit
Belushi said:Its people like you that encourages these xenomorphs to scuttle around the galaxy eating folk
Fucking right! I was desperate for the kid to get eaten.
They are two very different films with a common subject. Aliens just pips it for me as it has one of the most memorable, quotable screenplays in cinema history. It was also the first 18 film I saw in a cinema and blew me off the seat.
Alien is for me one of the most beautifully crafted, haunting and iconic pieces of cinema ever - both films are probably my two favourite pics of all time.
Alien is for me one of the most beautifully crafted, haunting and iconic pieces of cinema ever - both films are probably my two favourite pics of all time.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Is that the 'quadrilogy'? That name pisses me off - shouldn't it be tetralogy?
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
Anyone else go to alien war at the trocedero that was stupid fun Me and some japenesse business types fighting to get through a hatch away from an alien then laughing about how silly it was then the alien reappears and we are running for our lives again.Definatly perfer Aliens over alien but both excellent films .The rest are poor and AvP haven't been brave enough to watch it is it as bad as everyone says it is ?
Me and some japenesse business types fighting to get through a hatch away from an alien then laughing about how silly it was then the alien reappears and we are running for our lives again.Definatly perfer Aliens over alien but both excellent films .The rest are poor and AvP haven't been brave enough to watch it is it as bad as everyone says it is ?
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Aliens
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