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ok so Guy Ritchie has got hold of.. Sherlock Holmes


You're right, too young. How about

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Oddly enough, I'm looking fwd to this. And I adored Brett's Holmes!

This is bound to upset the purists but I don't think you can take it too seriously; it looks very tongue in cheek. By the trailer, there's almost a steampunk feel to it.

Did you watch the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? An 'almost steam punk feel' is definitely not always a good sign.
 
Both iirc. A solution of cocaine (7% solution) and morphine

e2a wiki says he expressed strong disapproval in an opium den.

Nah, cocaine. And lots of tobacco, of course. The books were quite gritty, really - showing the good and bad sides of drugs, which is more than can be said for many modern stories.
 
I love Mark Strong (he was great in The Long Firm), and the thought of him as Moriarity almost made me excited about this. Hence my dismay upon learning that Moriarity isn't even the villain and that Strong is playing some bizarre Crowleyesque baddie. They must be saving Moriarity for the inevitable sequels. Gah.
 
I heard an interview with Downey and Law a couple of weeks ago and, after the usual "oh of course we respect the original holmes entirely and we've done so much research but you know you're always going to offend some purists" bit (which is said every time anything is adapted and means nothing) it then sounded like they'd been camping it up massively, which is just lazy.
 
Guess what ???...........

It isn't that great surprise surprise. Far too much violent action which isn't in keeping with the book's spirit at all. The plot is Dan Brown meets Seven meets V 4 Vendetta or something. The conjuring up of the dirty victorian london streets and vistas is magnificent. Presumably Richey had less to do with that :p
 
Guess what ???...........

It isn't that great surprise surprise. Far too much violent action which isn't in keeping with the book's spirit at all. The plot is Dan Brown meets Seven meets V 4 Vendetta or something. The conjuring up of the dirty victorian london streets and vistas is magnificent. Presumably Richey had less to do with that :p

I read some reviews in which it is claimed this Holmes is in fact far more faithful to the books than all previous incarnations- in particular the physical aspect of the character, apparently.
 
I read some reviews in which it is claimed this Holmes is in fact far more faithful to the books than all previous incarnations- in particular the physical aspect of the character, apparently.

I haven't seen this film but Downey is not how I imagine Holmes to look at all from the books.
 
Saw this last night and it was actually pretty good. I was expecting to be annoyed by Jude Law but he was decent. Whatshisname who played the lead was good except he seemed to be speaking too quickly quite often, which was a bit tricky to follow in places.

Victorian London looked great and aside from a couple of exaggerated fight scenes it didn't seem far too 'Guy Richie' really.

Clearly set up for sequels which is a bit annoying. I don't mind sequels if they stand alone, but if you start setting them up before the end of the previous film it's basically a feature length soap.
 
Good sound track, excellent chemistry between RDJ and Law, and liked the recreation of London during the 19th Century - sort of makes me wonder what was destroyed during the war. That said:

- Baker Street is much wider than is portrayed in the film (the old buildings are still there but could you fit three double deckers along side each other and have wide pavements?)
- It is not possible to sprint from the sewers underneath Parliament all the way to Tower Bridge! That's eight stops on the district and circle line which is AGES - even more so if you don't know where you're going and are half hunched over in the process
- Parliament would not look nearly as pristine as it did due to the effects of pollution in smokey London
- Too much time was wasted on over-complicated fight scenes, but hey, that's what the mass market likes.

Well...the above is just me being picky. It was quite a good romp of a film. I just get sensitive and protective as a history geek in and around areas I've lived in and work in.
 
Good sound track, excellent chemistry between RDJ and Law, and liked the recreation of London during the 19th Century - sort of makes me wonder what was destroyed during the war. That said:

- Baker Street is much wider than is portrayed in the film (the old buildings are still there but could you fit three double deckers along side each other and have wide pavements?)
- It is not possible to sprint from the sewers underneath Parliament all the way to Tower Bridge! That's eight stops on the district and circle line which is AGES - even more so if you don't know where you're going and are half hunched over in the process
- Parliament would not look nearly as pristine as it did due to the effects of pollution in smokey London
- Too much time was wasted on over-complicated fight scenes, but hey, that's what the mass market likes.

Well...the above is just me being picky. It was quite a good romp of a film. I just get sensitive and protective as a history geek in and around areas I've lived in and work in.
yeh? you missed pentonville prison being depicted not as it was, quite a modern prison in those times, but a bloody sewer of a prison out of the middle ages. but you missed the biggest fuck-ups, on which the entire plot rests.

it's all there in the history books and indeed in oscar wilde's 'ballad of reading gaol'.

basically, when someone was condemned to hang, two warders sat with him until the execution lest the hangman be cheated. and when they were hanged their bodies remained within the prison, as per sir roger casement, in a bed of lime. which means no body to resurrect.
 
Something that confused me. When we first see the bridge under construction, it's right near the prison.

When we see it again, it's basically right beside the houses of parliament.
 
I saw it and managed to fall asleep halfway through. It looked like they were pulling in all sorts of Steampunk elements into the art direction. They managed to drag everything interesting about Sherlock Holmes into a back alley and ass-rape it repeatedly
 
Something that confused me. When we first see the bridge under construction, it's right near the prison.

When we see it again, it's basically right beside the houses of parliament.
the prison is referred to as pentonville, which is a good mile or two from parliament and further from tower bridge :confused:
 
I saw it and managed to fall asleep halfway through. It looked like they were pulling in all sorts of Steampunk elements into the art direction. They'd managed to take everything interesting about Sherlock Holmes into a back alley, and ass-raped it repeatedly.

like steven spielberg and george lucas did with indiana jones :(

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