ok so Guy Ritchie has got hold of.. Sherlock Holmes

[veracity]

a bumbling Watson who bordered on the retarded,

To be fair Watson seems a little backward even in the books. I have been listening to an audio adaptation of A Study in Scarlet recently and sniggering at Watson's complete bewilderment

 

[Augie March]

This thread title is annoying. Since when was Guy Ritchie a 'the'?

 

[DotCommunist]

'the mockney twat married to the annoying american woman'

 

[dlx1]

yep only one Sherlock Holmes = Jeremy Brett
Had a replay last month on Dave or one of them channels

edit:* scrolls down read other comments. luck thing dvd box set

 

[Stigmata]

Are they going to go a bit steampunk with this or what?

 

[fogbat]

This thread title is annoying. Since when was Guy Ritchie a 'the'?

I think it was when the title was changed from "The Americans".

And personally, I think Ritchie's infamy merits his name including a "the".

 

[DotCommunist]

Are they going to go a bit steampunk with this or what?

That'd be cool. All the trains to be like the one from the end of the last Back To The Future

 

[kyser_soze]

'OI! Moriarty, you cunt!. I'm gonna open you up like a fakkin' tin of sardines. Fucking litlle cant

 

[Idaho]

Those holloywood execs and their endless quest to turn all the great stories into the same mediocrity.

You could do a great modern Sherlock Holmes adaptation.

"I always carry a pistol when travelling east of Aldgate"

 

[veracity]

"Purchase me some crack post-haste Watson!"

 

[DRINK?]

Guy Ritchie really is a complex character....famous for being a posh voyeur who re-makes the same gangster-glorifying movies over and over again and marrying a woman who looks like Rod Hull in a leotard...

I'm sticking my sticking neck out a little here, but I reckon it will be a cross between "sh*t and p*ss".

 

[kyser_soze]

Shpiss?

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I like Young Sherlock Holmes - the freaky dart things are quite scary
!

I adored that film as a child. Agreed about the hallucinations, proper quality. Some of it was well scary for a kid's film, like the bit where Holmes sees his own grave being dug!

 

[Azrael]

To be fair Watson seems a little backward even in the books. I have been listening to an audio adaptation of A Study in Scarlet recently and sniggering at Watson's complete bewilderment

I think Conan Doyle was still feeling his way in A Study in Scarlet. (Although there's that fine passage where Watson lists Holmes' areas of ignorance.) I remember the good doctor being on the ball when The Sign of Four came around, especially in the great opening scene when he tries to speak reason to Holmes during one of the detective's cocaine binges. Watson's of course there as a narrative device, so he's needlessly obtuse at times, but he's a smart enough fellow.

Not that I'm knocking Nigel Bruce's excellent comic turn, merely pointing out that adaptations taking liberties with the books is nothing new. I somehow doubt that Mr Richie's effort will rank alongside the Rathbone films, but the principle's the same.

Oh, and I also enjoyed the Young Sherlock Holmes film. Ditto The Great Mouse Detective, The Seven-Per-Cent Solution, and various other curious takes on Mr Holmes.

 

[Azrael]

His ignorance was as remarkable as his knowledge. Of contemporary literature, philosophy and politics he appeared to know next to nothing. Upon my quoting Thomas Carlyle, he inquired in the naivest way who he might be and what he had done. My surprise reached a climax, however, when I found incidentally that he was ignorant of the Copernican Theory and of the composition of the Solar System. That any civilized human being in this nineteenth century should not be aware that the earth travelled round the sun appeared to be to me such an extraordinary fact that I could hardly realize it.

[...]

"But the Solar System!" I protested.

"What the deuce is it to me?" he interrupted impatiently; "you say that we go round the sun. If we went round the moon it would not make a pennyworth of difference to me or to my work."

 

[zoooo]

I've not previously liked a Guy Ritchie film, but this actually looks fun.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

Saw the trailer - this looks fucking awful.

Sherlock Holmes and the Temple of Lock Stock and Two Smoking Jackets.

Bollocks!

 

[fogbat]

I expected better from Robert Downey Jr.

Is he back on the drugs, then?

 

[kyser_soze]

one of the detective's cocaine binges

Wasn't it opium>?

 

[DotCommunist]

Wasn't it opium>?

Both iirc. A solution of cocaine (7% solution) and morphine

e2a wiki says he expressed strong disapproval in an opium den.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

This is going to be appalling. I can feel it in my water. The first thing I said when I saw the trailer was "well that looks very... 'LXG'".

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Incidentally, you can train in Bartitsu still. I think it's come up here before.

 

[DotCommunist]

Incidentally, you can train in Bartitsu still. I think it's come up here before.

yes it has. On my 'fighting moves of yesteryear' thread where I lamented the death of old school fighting moves, like the old windmill wind up preceding the sharp uppercut to the chin

 

[FridgeMagnet]

 

[dlx1]

Think going to see on Sunday, anyone seen camjob
what it like
Ok, Shit or stab eyes with pipe

 

[kittyP]

I love RDJ and I think he may have been able to pull off playing Holmes (maybe) if only it wasn't fucking Guy Ritchy making it!

 

[Reno]

I love Robert Downey Jr., but nothing can make me go and see this. I've already turned down a fee preview of this. Sherlock Holmes retooled for the Batman generation, with six pack abs as an action hero in a Gotham like London.

 

[krtek a houby]

Oddly enough, I'm looking fwd to this. And I adored Brett's Holmes!

This is bound to upset the purists but I don't think you can take it too seriously; it looks very tongue in cheek. By the trailer, there's almost a steampunk feel to it.

 

[Nanker Phelge]

As a huge Columbo fan, this wouldn't bother me in the slightest. And if they cast a decent actor (i.e. someone with actual skill and not just a CSI reject) and kept to the spirit of the programme, it could work.

Peter Falk played Columbo for a very long time: 1968 - 2003

That's a big role to step in to for anyone and that character is not an easy one to play against what we expect.

Falk wasn't the first Columbo. He was played by Bert Freed in a 1960 Tv play (Enough Rope) which was then adapted for the stage and starred Thomas Mitchell (renamed Prescription Murder). Mitchell died just after playing Columbo.

Anyway...they wanted to turn the stage play into a TV show and Bing Crosby was one of the names suggested for the role.

shit...sorry.....I'm a bit of a Columbo anorak.

Anyway....Falk lived and breathed it.

 

[krtek a houby]

I'd get Christopher off The Sopranos to play Columbo...