Oi, Hollis!

[LDR]

I can't understand how people think listening to a DJ playing someone else's stuff is ok but to have the same song played live by a bunch of musicians isn't.

Surely live music is nearly always better than pre-recorded stuff.

 

[perplexis]

..famaliarise yourself with the Tribute band scene and you soon see the difference between a good and a bad one.. Anyway its not just an interpretation but also a celebration of the great music and songs and performance of the bands..

*pukes copiously*
What?
"A celebration" you say?
Like dressing up like the band and stuff And all the crowd can pretend they're 20 years younger Oh Jeebusz it makes me want to cry.
It's a pathetic excuse for a performance, it's imitation, it's pointless. It's doing something that's already happened. It's a waste of fecking time.

Joins Orang Utan in the unreasonably angry corner.

 

[perplexis]

Vinyl simply cannot recreate the live performance element/sound of the band.. A good tribute band can.

How can they?
How could any modern musician be the same as, say, Hendrix, or Keith Moon, or Ian Curtis...?
It's impossible. Not becaus ethey necessarily are less talented, but bands existed in and of their time and there is simply no way to properly recreate that. How can anyone have the same exact skills and state of mind as someone else?

I must leave this thread as my caffeine-filled blood is boiling.
But a conciliatory word first- I don't really care. I'm glad people find pleasure in things that I don't. I just wouldn't wish to be subjected to it. Ever.

 

[LDR]

It's also quite a bit of fun if you don't take music too seriously.

Music is supposed to be fun isn't it?

 

[perplexis]

It's also quite a bit of fun if you don't take music too seriously.

Music is supposed to be fun isn't it?

fun?
What is... fun?


Yes, that too. But the gulf between entertaining and good can often be a wide one, no?

 

[Groucho]

Dub will be oh so mightily impressed with this

My step brother was in a slightly successful Beatles tribute band. He played John Lennon. They used to do one set in the old Beatles colarless suits and the second set in Sgt Pepper get up.

There's a cd or two.

 

[Hollis]

How can they?
How could any modern musician be the same as, say, Hendrix, or Keith Moon, or Ian Curtis...?
It's impossible. Not becaus ethey necessarily are less talented, but bands existed in and of their time and there is simply no way to properly recreate that. How can anyone have the same exact skills and state of mind as someone else?

Not exactly - but there's some good approximations around..

 

[perplexis]

And another thing- isn't a tribute band just a one-trick covers band?
F*** I said I was going to desist from posting on this thread.

Hollis- fair point about approximation, but I still don't really see the point.
I quitelike LD Rudeboy's suggestion that it's for fun. I'm still grappling with the wider implications of it though

 

[Orang Utan]

So you never listen to your old CDs?

Not much - I occasionally have a nostalgia session.
But I listen to a CD a few times and then move on - I NEED new stuff

 

[Orang Utan]

I can't understand how people think listening to a DJ playing someone else's stuff is ok but to have the same song played live by a bunch of musicians isn't.

Surely live music is nearly always better than pre-recorded stuff.

No - records are better - the sound is better - no crappy pub PA that distorts it all and makes it sound even shitter.
Live music is overrated - the stuff I like is impossible to do justice to live anyway.

 

[Orang Utan]

Get to work boy, I don't pay you to sit around yakking.

Hey muser?

 

[Groucho]

And another thing- isn't a tribute band just a one-trick covers band?
F*** I said I was going to desist from posting on this thread.

Hollis- fair point about approximation, but I still don't really see the point.
I quitelike LD Rudeboy's suggestion that it's for fun. I'm still grappling with the wider implications of it though

Would you go to a sixties theme party? Or a 70s night? Or a French Revolution cruise? Or a murder mystery dinner party?

btw Those bands who do come back tours but who only have one of the original members in - are they the real thing, or a tribute band?

I think the Rolling Stones have great difficulty recreating the Rolling Stones.

I saw Ryan Adams live once by accident in a pub in Margate. I saw Bryan Adams live once too. Not exactly by choice. He was shit.

I thought the Gonzo Dog Doo Bar Band were fun.

 

[Hollis]

Live music is overrated - the stuff I like is impossible to do justice to live anyway.

Totally disagree - not just talking tribute bands - watching a band interact on state creating the sound's all part of the fun.

 

[Groucho]

..famaliarise yourself with the Tribute band scene

Is there a tribute band scene?!

 

[LDR]

No - records are better - the sound is better - no crappy pub PA that distorts it all and makes it sound even shitter.
Live music is overrated - the stuff I like is impossible to do justice to live anyway.

That's where we disagree. I nearly always prefer live music over pre-recorded. I've heard plently of DJs with crap PAs too.

 

[Orang Utan]

I prefer discos to gigs everytime - the dancefloor is better spaced in clubs

 

[Hollis]

Is there a tribute band scene?!

Oh yes - and the "Glastonbudget " Tribute band festival.

 

[Orang Utan]

Totally disagree - not just talking tribute bands - watching a band interact on state creating the sound's all part of the fun.

That bores me - I'm the one dancing with his back to the band - I prefer seeing other people's reactions to the music - the joy on the faces is much more fun than some bloke posing with a guitar or crabbing on the turntables

 

[perplexis]

Would you go to a sixties theme party? Or a 70s night? Or a French Revolution cruise? Or a murder mystery dinner party?

No.
No I wouldn't.
None of the above if I could possibly avoid it.
I actively avoid any supposedly fun activity that involves explicit prescription of any sort.
I really don't enjoy themes as I find them pointlessly restrictive (go on, tell me it's only my imagination restricting me ).
And I avoid 70s nights like the scourge that they are (anything that involves being subjected to any (or heaven forbid all) of ABBA, the YMCA, "I will Survive" can @£#~ right off. It's my idea of hell on earth).
So I'm a kill joy, but hey, I'm not ashamed

btw Those bands who do come back tours but who only have one of the original members in - are they the real thing, or a tribute band?

I think the Rolling Stones have great difficulty recreating the Rolling Stones.

Bands without the original line-up, like years later, uh why do the y do it?? Not tribute bands, but usually shite/pale imitations of themselves.

I was actually going to mention the Stones as an example of a not-tribute band who are a waste of time...
Aging rock bands can't recreate themselves from 40 years ago, and IMO they shouldn't try (and they certainly shouldn't charge X-amount of £££ for the privilege of watching them do injustice to their back catalogue).
Some can pull it off- Iggy Pop for instance is IMO still ace.
Blarg.
I am still on this thread.
It's too much fun ranting to leave it

 

[Hollis]

That bores me - I'm the one dancing with his back to the band - I prefer seeing other people's reactions to the music - the joy on the faces is much more fun than some bloke posing with a guitar or crabbing on the turntables

Hmm.. we aint' gonna agree on this are we?

Not necessarily posing - but watching people create the sound live.. that's whats good.

 

[Groucho]

Oh yes - and the "Glastonbudget " Tribute band festival.

Cor!

 

[Orang Utan]

Hmm.. we aint' gonna agree on this are we?

Not necessarily posing - but watching people create the sound live.. that's whats good.

Yeah, you're right actually. I agree with you really.

 

[LDR]

That bores me - I'm the one dancing with his back to the band - I prefer seeing other people's reactions to the music - the joy on the faces is much more fun than some bloke posing with a guitar or crabbing on the turntables

I like watching the reaction of the band who are reacting to the reaction of the punters. It's all good.

 

[Hollis]

Cor!

Details here... first band confirmed for 2007

http://www.glastonbudget.co.uk/www/index.pl/home

 

[Groucho]

And I avoid 70s nights like the scourge that they are (anything that involves being subjected to any (or heaven forbid all) of ABBA, the YMCA, "I will Survive" can @£#~ right off. It's my idea of hell on earth).
So I'm a kill joy, but hey, I'm not ashamed

I feel like that about 80s nights.

Some can pull it off- Iggy Pop for instance is IMO still ace.

Agreed.

 

[Orang Utan]

Yeah, you're right actually. I agree with you really.

Psyche

 

[milesy]

i wouldn't want to go and see a tribute band. real thing or not at all for me, really.