5t3IIa
Registered User
Maybe I am just too well-brought up but why the fuck would you ever need to to swear in a work email?
oh hell, the i.t service desk at work have automatically quarntined some of my emails
- Thread starter Onslow
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Maybe I am just too well-brought up but why the fuck would you ever need to to swear in a work email?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Most people I do work for object to swearing in emails that go out under the company banner
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Most people I do work for object to swearing in emails that go out under the company banner
I don't know of many companies that approve of sweary messages going out to _clients_. Swearing internally though, you do see at times, often from upper management.
Kanda
Diving wanker
I dont think it has anything to do with how you have been raised
Depends where you work, context, situation etc. I wouldn't feel the need to swear at a colleague personally, as you I'm able to communicate a message without doing so, I was swearing as I was chatting informally to someone. After hours of management and corporate talk it can be good to let off steam. Albiet quite daft to do so through the work e-mail.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Most people I do work for object to swearing in emails that go out under the company banner
So they'd spend time and money filtering emails for swear words? How draconian. How pointless!
I have friends who work for councils, charities, massive corps (PWC, E&Y, Goldman Sachs, et al), and we all happily f and blind in our emails to each other.
I've honestly never come across this, and I worked in IT support for years.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Not all work emails are work emails, are they?
Email to colleague: I'm fucking knackered, need to go home, will email you the file in the morning.
Email to friend: Liverpool were shit last night.
Maybe it's an age thing
Pingu
Credo
just be thankful you dont work for the bank we have just done a job for.
there was some very tame swearing in some code annotations (something like "and the next bit is all bollocks but it works"...)
guy who did the annotation had his contract terminated last week. he worked for one of the big 4 consultancys and is well respected in the field.
some organisations have very strict policies about even minor breaches of protocol
there was some very tame swearing in some code annotations (something like "and the next bit is all bollocks but it works"...)
guy who did the annotation had his contract terminated last week. he worked for one of the big 4 consultancys and is well respected in the field.
some organisations have very strict policies about even minor breaches of protocol
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Makes you realise just how pathetic a lot of people still are, eh?
Ludicrous.
Ludicrous.
I fucked myself with email in my first ever proper job. I described an NA meeting I went to which had ended in a massive punch up, and also going into a rather bitter rant about a larger than average lady who was particularly self righteous, stuffing chocolate into her face in a rather grotesque fashion (I was a lot less diplomatic about my words....). I think I implied that I would quite like it if she died horribly.
This email was read by my boss, the HR manager, some non-executive director (who was the nicest guy on the face of the planet - I could see the dissappointment etched onto his face through out the disciplinary). I also had to admit past problems with drugs. They let me keep my job, for about 8 months, then found a way to bin me, in the most bastardish fashion possible.
If your email was anything as bad as mine, I would probably find another job sooner rather than later...
This email was read by my boss, the HR manager, some non-executive director (who was the nicest guy on the face of the planet - I could see the dissappointment etched onto his face through out the disciplinary). I also had to admit past problems with drugs. They let me keep my job, for about 8 months, then found a way to bin me, in the most bastardish fashion possible.
If your email was anything as bad as mine, I would probably find another job sooner rather than later...
How did your boss intially find out about the e-mail and its content?
I insist on obscene variable and function names where they help make the code self-documenting: the fuckoff_* namespace for handling site attacks and so forth...
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
We swear loads and say quite the most filthy and inappropriate things in our team email group. We refrain from pornographic images, but we've photoshopped each other at Nazi rallies and such like whilst childishly accusing each other of being racist and other such banter. I send most of my personal email from my work address too. I don't see the problem really. It's just fun and games. No one cares.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Sometimes a colleague you know well asks you to do something at the end of the day and you say, 'fuck off, I'm busy. I'm going home' just as part of the banter.
Fuchs66
Ring a ding
This, in fact I swear more in my official mails than in my personal stuff
E2A apparently our IT geeks only have access to the headings on our mail and cant read the content (or so they say)
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying that it happens. So for anyone reading, it's best they're clear about what their own organisation does and not make any assumptions.
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Of course you my dear have my work email. But the most exciting thing said on it is "can you pick up some food tonight"
I somehow doubt that's a sackable offence.
Kanda
Diving wanker
It's built in to most Mail relay systems and just involves uploading a simple word list. Doesn't take much time or money. It does stop people calling suppliers or customers cunts or whatever... unfortunately you can't filter between business and personal emails.
It's protecting the company at the end of the day.
Pingu
Credo
This, in fact I swear more in my official mails than in my personal stuff
E2A apparently our IT geeks only have access to the headings on our mail and cant read the content (or so they say)
they are lying...
if they want to, and of course assuming that they have the right software, its very easy to read emails
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Yeah, it's easy to set up your mail filtering to stop it, but then to make it part of someone's remit to sit and go through blocked emails to discipline people sounds like a waste of time to me. Of course it depends on the company, etc, but for most firms it seems more than a little pointless.
I guess you know whether you work in an organisation like that before you've even sent your first email, though.
Personally, I don't think I'd ever want to work in a place like that. Unless it was my only option of course.
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Indeed. And if you work in a smaller company, I can almost guarantee that the boss will have permissions to everyone in the company's mailbox and that they're accessible just below their own email. I've never known this not to be the case, either!
This is why you set up mail rules to a .pst file, so all mail from your mates goes into a file seperate to your mailbox. Also why you should delete mail sent to your mates from your sent items immediately after sending. It's also why, if mail goes back and forward, you should never leave anything more than the email you're replying to in the thread.
Pingu
Credo
if they are using exchange server then deleting emails and even emptying your deleted items folder isn't going to protect you. it can be configured to retain a copy of deleted stuff for a period of time. Then there are the backups.
the rule I follow is work email is for work use and I always assume that my mail account could be audited at any point - so I dont fuck about with it. If I am on a client site doubly so
I think a lot of people misunderstand just what IT can and cant do.
with regards to your usage of computer systems within their domain there is very very little they cant find out if the actually want to (assuming they have the knowledge to do so). Having said this the odds of them actually doing so will vary greatly depending on what type of company you work for. Banks etc will normally have a much higher level of automated monitoring and a tighter acceptable usage policy than a small builders merchant. So fuck about when on a banks systems the odds of you being sussed and bollocked are obviously much higher.
Ultimately if they pay for the systems its up to them to say how they are prepared for them to be used
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Tip, for those wishing to really piss off IT and make it cost a lot to recover your deleted emails press shift+delete as this basically throws the mail away and tosses away the key
Not that you heard it from this helpdesk monkey, no siree
This is also why I have a hotmail address rather than using my work email address for anything but work (loves having admin rights)
Amusingly my workplace has a rating system in place, with Fuck getting a rating of 4 and Tits a rating of 7, if you go over a 10 rating your stuff gets quarantined, was also amusing to discover an email from an Italian to an Italian was quarantined because it had the acronym WOP in it.
Not that you heard it from this helpdesk monkey, no siree
This is also why I have a hotmail address rather than using my work email address for anything but work (loves having admin rights)
Amusingly my workplace has a rating system in place, with Fuck getting a rating of 4 and Tits a rating of 7, if you go over a 10 rating your stuff gets quarantined, was also amusing to discover an email from an Italian to an Italian was quarantined because it had the acronym WOP in it.
pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
When I was in my last job, I thought the web was a BIG novelty.
I found all the funny stuff like goatse etc.
I didn't know if out IT saw it, but they never told me if they did.
Sorry to burst your bubble pk, but shift-del doesn't always work. e.g. If the company is mailsweeping incoming mail then bounces are generated or copies taken before it hits your mailbox and this can be configured on keywords, mail size, sender, encryption status or loads of different criteria.
Also most mail systems are backed up, so if you don't delete shit from your mail box immediately it might be backed up and stored on tape when the overnight backup runs. It wouldn't be the first time some it spod has been told to restore a standalone exchange backup for examination with management looking over their shoulders.
Bottom line is don't use your work email for anything you wouldn't want your MD to read, because if he wants to read it he can and will (unless you're running proper crypto, which is a no-no in many places for exactly this reason)
ChrisFilter
Like a boss.
Of course, but in terms of avoiding boss accessing your mailbox, my advice stands true. In bigger companies with full IT depts it might be different.
Boris Sprinkler
Dont be scared
I also jokingly said that the director of operations wanted to wank me off
There's swearing and then there's saying that. Which is hilarious. Sorry Onslow, I hope they don't read it but it is funny
You'll look back and laugh in a couple of weeks, it's a great story.Similar threads
