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Oh, For Fuck's Sake: Spielberg & Will Smith Remake....

A lot of the jokes in Oldboy are very specific to Korea, the whole plot is about Korea in a sense.

It might be a decent film anyway, it is a shame that these companies don't think that mass audiences can handle stuff like subtitles or actors who they don't recognise
 
This is very very sad news!

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:hmm:
 
Might well be. Like i said over hyped so disserpointing im sure i will watch it again and think its class.

Most of the allegedly ultraviolent films leave me feeling that way on first viewing. Itchi the killer was the same.


dave
 
WTFFFFFFFFF? :mad:
What's this fucking obsession with remaking stuff that's already brilliant?
Wherefore art thou, O creativity?
It's not like there's a shortage of people writing or imaging new stories, FFS.
:mad:
 
kained&able said:
Might well be. Like i said over hyped so disserpointing im sure i will watch it again and think its class.

Most of the allegedly ultraviolent films leave me feeling that way on first viewing. Itchi the killer was the same.


dave
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But Oldboy isn't an ultraviolent film. It's a brilliant, intelligent film with some violence in it.
 
which is why i was disserpointed by how it was hyped!

i was waiting for something to kick off properly and no, didn't happen.

dave
 
El Jefe said:
But Oldboy isn't an ultraviolent film. It's a brilliant, intelligent film with some violence in it.
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I agree, but it was marketed as that on the back of things like Ichi, despite it being a very different film. I thought it was great, but it wasn't the best one in the revenge trilogy, that was the first one (Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance) for me.
 
butchersapron said:
I agree, but it was marketed as that on the back of things like Ichi, despite it being a very different film. I thought it was great, but it wasn't the best one in the revenge trilogy, that was the first one (Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance) for me.
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Sympathy for Lady Vengeance for me.
 
So is Will Smith Spielberg's new bum boy after the Cruiser? Is Spielberg an un-outed Hubbardista, since Cruise and Smith both are...interesting confluence...
 
g force said:
I thought Munich was pretty good but a very, very different type of serious to Oldboy. This will be a disaster :mad:
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I was being sarcastic, he's done loads of great serious films

Empire of The Sun, Schindlers List, Private Ryan off the top of my head

I know a lot of people don't like him cos he sticks stupid messages in his films, but he's a fucking brilliant director by all accounts
 
W0t?
Spielberg is not a brilliant director- he just has many millions of dollars behind him, with which he should be able to do a fuck of a lot better than he does. I don't really think anything I've seen of his is genius, and most of it is tosh.
Empire of the Sun is good (well I thought it was when I saw it when I was 12, lol), but he's responsible for a fair amount of crap- War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones & the Crystal Nonsense, Jurassic Park II, Hook... and the rest is mostly mediocre "blockbuster" tripe.
</ranty>
 
perplexis said:
W0t?
Spielberg is not a brilliant director- he just has many millions of dollars behind him, with which he should be able to do a fuck of a lot better than he does. I don't really think anything I've seen of his is genius, and most of it is tosh.
Empire of the Sun is good (well I thought it was when I saw it when I was 12, lol), but he's responsible for a fair amount of crap- War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones & the Crystal Nonsense, Jurassic Park II, Hook... and the rest is mostly mediocre "blockbuster" tripe.
</ranty>
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Honestly, the amount of great films he's done in his career. Of course he's done some turkeys, but every director has, he's been around since the 70s, he's bound to have made plenty of shite, if you look at his filmography it's seriously impressive

I think this deserves another thread as it goes
 
Is it fuck*! I hate big-budget bullshit, and am viscerally opposed to people saying that something's good just cos it's got big effects and exciting chases/explosions/monsters/crap.

*his filmography that is
 
perplexis said:
Is it fuck*! I hate big-budget bullshit, and am viscerally opposed to people saying that something's good just cos it's got big effects and exciting chases/explosions/monsters/crap.

*his filmography that is
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there's a lot more to him than that. plenty of films with massive budgets and so on fail miserably
 
isitme said:
there's a lot more to him than that. plenty of films with massive budgets and so on fail miserably
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Indeed they do. Lots of his, for example :D
Meh, ok, I think I'm too much of a snob to appreciate it. I don't even like ET.
 
perplexis said:
Is it fuck*! I hate big-budget bullshit, and am viscerally opposed to people saying that something's good just cos it's got big effects and exciting chases/explosions/monsters/crap.

*his filmography that is
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Do you hate good films made with big budgets?

What's your cut off point? £12?
 
butchersapron said:
Do you hate good films made with big budgets?

What's your cut off point? £12?
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£6.50 and packet of crisps. Or thereabouts.

"good films" is a bit subjective isn't it?
I like what I like, and it tends not to be flash stuff.
edit: that's to say, I judge a film as a film, and then its budget is irrelevant.
 
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